No! My permanent record!
I mean - it kind of is? I believe a company is allowed to ask another company if they’re eligible for rehire - and they record those things in their HR systems.
This is true. The other company can ask HR to consult the big book of grudges to determine if there are indeed grudges.
Given that person already found a new job, if they plan to keep it for long, the previous company’s record won’t be useful anymore.
They’re not wrong though, assuming they’re in the UK and/or their contract agrees a minimum of two weeks notice, as is standard.
This applies both ways. I expect this employee would be angry if their employer breached their contract to sack them immediately without this notice, but if the employee breaches those same terms of their agreed contract that’s…okay? No.
Regardless of their feelings, it’s very unprofessional, petty even, and depending on how litigious and unhappy with them their employer is, not a very smart idea.
There are many edge cases where things must be looked at differently of course (someone resigning over harassment at work would not wish to remain there for a fortnight serving their notice for example), but this must be discussed and agreed upon, because again, it deviates from the legally binding contractual agreement they both signed.
This employee, regardless of any legitimate grievances, in this communication is unprofessional, petty, and frankly childish.
While I don’t know the story behind their falling out, I suspect the employer will be glad to see them go. I wouldn’t want them working for me, or even work with them as a colleague. They sound awful.
OTOH, if this is in the US, we are almost entirely at-will when it comes to employment; we can be terminated at any time, for something as petty as the boss not liking our socks, no heads-up required.
Here the two weeks notice is considered a courtesy, and sadly fewer and fewer businesses are proving worthy of that courtesy. It seems from the post title that this company did not deserve much respect at all.
I thought from the last part that this was an ironic joke about all those quitting with text posts where the boss is really unreasonable and shitty
businesses and people are not equal and should not be viewed as such
They aren’t but it doesn’t make notice periods any less important in contracts - for everyone involved. It’s a win-win situation to have these clauses because they guarantee a minimum of stability.
If businesses wanted stability they wouldn’t make the working conditions so bad.
In the Netherlands, by law there is a minimum of one month’s notice. If the employers fire you, the notice time is doubled. So if a company would require three months notice it means you can still work there for 6 more months after you’re fired.
Nice but awkward…
There’s only one state in the U.S., and since it’s an iPhone, sorry, kind of assuming you’re in the States, that that’s true in.
In other words they can kick rocks. Assholes wanted at-will employment. They got at-will employment.
No you see it’s supposed to be at their will, not your will.
Waah. 😂
Not giving the required notice kind of makes you the asshole, though.
Companies in the US fire employees with no notice all the time. They dont want some angry person around who knows they are only around for a short time.
Yeah, labour laws over there are abysmal.
I guess if they notice period only applies to employees and not also the employer, then it would be justifiable to ignore it. But otherwise it will make you the asshole.
Paying me something barely over minimum wage makes them an asshole. We’re even.
We’re even.
If the notice period is legally binding, they could sue you for damages of missed labour and breach of contract.
Let me introduce you to something known as “at will employment”
At will work says they can fire me for any reason or no reason at all with no notice, they fought for that right so why should I care if they’re upset I treat them the same way they fought to treat me. I don’t disagree it’s a shitty way to act but who’s fault is it really?
I don’t disagree it’s a shitty way to act but who’s fault is it really?
Lawmakers.
I’d say employers. Lawmakers only do it to satisfy businesses.
I’m guessing this is ironic since yeah the boss is right hah
Tbf, I’ll give a two weeks notice when they start giving two weeks notice before firing people. Two weeks notice, two way street.
I assumed that’s how it works. Definitely works like that where I live.
Not here.
You must live in a civilized country.
America is not a civilized country.
Please, please let me be in a position to do this soon.
I have attempted the 2 week’s notice 3 times. Only 1 of which have I actually made it to the end. First job in HS, I had no bad blood, but it was a union shop that paid like .10 over min wage. When the union tried to shake me down for dues (of which they wanted like 2 check’s worth of money since I was the Lowest level and only working part time) I told them no thank you, put in 2 weeks notice, worked til the end.
2nd job it was the end of high school, 2 weeks notice was in bc off to college. The company fires my boss, then I tell his replacement I need x and y days off next week for grad night/ graduation related activities. I show up the next day and it’s a different guy working who made the schedule without talking to anyone apparently. I told him I had asked the other lady for X and Y days off. “Well, right now you’re scheduled to work, if you want those days off, you’re going to need to get someone to cover your shift.”
I’m good chief, I’ll take my last check please.
The other one I had the new job desperately needing help and wanting me to start ASAP, so I worked it out where I was going to grind a 60+ hr week where I’d train in the AM at the new job and take a late shift at the old job. The 2nd day I was burnt out asf. I walk into the old job at 6 pm after grinding 8 hrs at the new job to a severely understaffed store and I was supposed to close down with the worst fellow supervisor we had. She was a very sweet older lady, but she was just slow at absolutely everything she did. I knew that closing with her while short a cashier and a bagger meant I’d be doing double/ triple duty that night and getting out an hour later than usual. I just said fuck this shit and bounced. I made up some sob story about personal issues going on to not completely burn that bridge and actually kept eligibility for rehire, but I was fucking done with that place.
