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    Ok, so serious answer for our friends who don’t live in places without an active culture of protest:

    1. Vote. No, really. If people actually fucking voted, we wouldn’t be in this mess.

    2. Give money to advocacy organizations

    3. Give your time and money to mutual aid organizations

    4. Read the news (not just on lemmy either)

    5. CALL your congresspeople. Emails and letters are better than nothing, but do not have the same impact.

    6. Try to get your friends to do #1-5

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      How’s giving money going to help when it would take a million of me to counter a single billionaire?

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        We don’t need to match a billionaire. We just need to finance lawyers and advocates to work on our behalf.

        As bad as things are now, think about how much quicker things would devolve without organizations like planned parenthood, the EFF, and the ACLU.

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    Not mine, but from a post: First, you’re never going to win a head-on battle with an adversary that’s got you outgunned. That’s not the point of the Resistance. The point is to create friction, make it hard for your adversary to operate, to increase transaction costs.

    Second, resistance doesn’t have to be a dramatic act. It can be a small act, like losing a sheet of paper, taking your time processing something, not serving someone in a restaurant. Small acts taken by thousands have big effects.

    Third, use your privilege and access if you’ve got it. He and his buddies stole weapons from the Nazis by driving up with a truck to the weapons depot, speaking German, acting like it was a routine pick up, and driving away.

    Fourth, part of the third point really, sometimes the best way to do things is right out in the open. Because no one will believe something like what you’re doing would be happening so blatantly. All good Social Engineers know this.

    Five, bide your time. But be ready for opportunity when it strikes. Again, your action need not be dramatic. Just a little sand in the gears helps.

    Six, and this is a no-brainer, operate in cells to limit damage to the resistance should they take you out. Limit the circulation of info to your cell, avoid writing things down and…

    Seven, be very careful with whom you trust. Snitches and compromised individuals are everywhere. My dad was arrested because of a snitch. His friends weren’t so lucky, the Gestapo machine gunned the cabin they were in without bothering to try and arrest them.

    Eight, use the skills you have to contribute. Dad was an electrical engineer. When the Nazis imposed the death penalty for owning a radio (the British sent coded messages to the Resistance after BBC shows) he said he became the most popular guy in town.

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        Just having a network of care, looking out for each other and replacing functions a fascist state doesn’t offer any more (think childcare/healthcare/food for those in need) can be a huge act of resistance. Organizing political protests as long as it’s still possible (even if it’s illegal). Strike, sabotage, physical violence … Eventually you will have the choice of imprisonment/death, assimilation or exile to me the last act of resistance will be never to choose assimilation. Continuing to live in exile can be as much of a martyrdom as dying for the cause.

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        The things being said here are a good start, but you cant do anything without other people. And if you and your community dont like the reccomended actions here? Make up your own plan with them! We cant just wait until we have the perfect plan to stop fascism and fix alll the world’s issues. We need to start working together now.

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    1. Don’t do fascism yourself. (This is harder than you think.)
    2. If it is within your power, prevent others from doing fascism.
    3. Help others that have had fascism done to them.
    4. Grow your power, in order to do #2 more often.

    Avoid creating or growing an organization that has a strong hierarchical structure, as they are easier for fascists to convert/infiltrate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agzNANfNlTs Democratic structure can be better, but beware giving any power to the intolerant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance#Paradox_of_freedom_and_paradox_of_democracy

    If you are comfortable, #4 might involve physical, martial, melee, firearm, etc. training. It is not unlikely that the current fascists in power use violence to grow/retain power, and that might require violence as part of the fight. That said, I feel there’s plenty of non-violent ways to fight fascism, for now.

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    A few options:

    1. Get out. If you’re one of the people fascists want dead, then surviving is in and of itself an act of resistance. Leave their domain. Go somewhere else. And live – Just live. Build a life they can’t touch.

    2. Organise and survive under their noses. It will not be easy, even if fascism has a short shelf life… It still does a lot of damage while it is active, and you and yours could end up as their target. Still, your best chance of surviving is by grouping up. Meet your neighbours, meet your local activists, get to know them, and start helping each other.

    3. Violence. But. It’s not enough to just go spree killer. The violent response demands organisation. You could join an armed resistance group. Or, if you leave the country, if it comes to war, you could enlist to fight against your old nation. Lots of people did both in the forties.

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      1. Sabotage - purposefully obstruct these lunatics any way you can. Delay their food orders. Slash their tires. etc. Delete emails. Empty gas tanks. If they’re constantly fixing shit there’s less time for them to create problems
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    I have three pieces of advice:

    First: The best, most practical and actionable advice I can think of is to start organizing your neighborhood. You don’t even have to openly be organizing resistance to do it, just get to know your neighbors, get your neighbors to know each other, get to know what’s going on in each other’s lives and offer help where and how you can. Bring over some snacks on the basis of being neighborly and just ask how they’re doing some time. Forming these social bonds are really, really important, and it’s the basis of building resilience in your community. We used to have stuff like this built in, but it’s been slowly eroded over lifetimes, largely but not exclusively by exclusionary zoning and car-centric infrastructure.

    Look, if you’re just the person a couple doors down they don’t really know, people might go “oh, huh” when the brown shirts come. If you’re Dolores down the street who brings them brownies every month, there’s a much better chance that your neighbors knock back when the brown shirts come knocking. And if it’s not just one neighbor, but three or four of them that come out to beat some Nazi ass? Pretty good chance those fucks will get the message loud and clear.

    I can feel some of you out there already replying “but my neighbors voted for the Nazis”. Yeah, they did. I’ve also worked with enough Republican voters to know that when they think of the evil other, they don’t possibly imagine that that could include their friends, family, and co-workers. That is, your neighbors, in all likelihood, don’t want the bad thing to happen to you. The point is this: community bonds can and will outweigh other considerations if you build them.

    Second: Go to local government meetings as much as possible, bitch at them about your favorite pet issue, listen and watch other people who show up there. It’s an easy way to speed run making connections in your local activist community, and you might even end up actually influencing some local policies. I go to them, it’s free and easy, and the cops can’t stop you from yelling at the city council about the price of housing. The real value, though, has been getting invited to other local activist groups that I never realized existed because I met other members of those groups there.

    Third: Prepare. If shit hits the fan, you need to be able to take care of yourself, help might not be coming. I think probably the best strategy is the same as for mass shooters: run, hide, fight.

    Run- ditch your smartphone and other spyware devices. Tell nobody about your plans, especially not over any kind of electronic medium. Just go. Have a bug out bag ready to go. When you’re making your bag, remember that you’re going to have to carry it a long, long way. Try to be practical. Probably the most important items you can have are your ID, cash, more cash than you think in a few different places, a change of clothes (especially underwear and socks), a good multi-tool or fixed-blade knife (no need to go crazy, just get a decent full-tang no-frills knife from a flea market or something), hygiene products (moist towelettes and baby wipes are great), water, and snacks (try to focus on really energy dense stuff like peanut butter). Small tarps and mylar/wool blankets probably are good ideas too. Water should also be its own container, ideally a large canteen, or a backpack if you can swing it. I’d also recommend a handful of dice or playing cards to keep you sane.

    Have a plan with anyone who’s going with you on where to meet up and how long to wait and don’t tell another soul about it. If they miss the deadline, just go ahead and follow the rest of the plan.

    Also, part of this is upskilling. Learn how to repair tears in your clothing, how to talk to people, how to do first aid, stuff like that. You’ve got to be ready to rely on yourself to get yourself out of a jam. At the point of running, this is the worst scenario, and you need to treat it as such.

    Hide- DITCH YOUR FUCKING ELECTRONICS. Never go on social media ever again ever, don’t log into Google, don’t check your email, don’t log into Lemmy, just quit this shit altogether. The NSA already has a full database of basically anything you’ve ever communicated over a phone or the internet, and law enforcement absolutely will use it via parallel construction. Don’t use debit cards or credit cards, pay in cash. You wouldn’t believe the shit they collect on you all the time. You can worry about contacting people once you’re safe.

    Fight- There is still a second amendment. If it’s a choice between dying in a firefight with some fascists or going to the boxcars, I think that choice seems obvious. Speaking as a gun owner: If you get a gun, you MUST practice with it at least a few times. Get familiar with it and understand how to handle it, you really don’t want the first time you’ve ever shot your gun to be when you’re trying to fight the Nazis. Personally, I’d recommend a pump action 12 gauge shotgun; it’s practical for many, many use cases, the ammo is easy to come by and very common, it’s dead easy to service and maintain, and aiming at close quarters is as simple as point and click.

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    One way I’ve been trying personally is just gathering as much information as possible and remembering it. I’ve always been super bad at history and biology because of my resistance to memorization, but I’m slowly keeping up while trying not the get burnt out.

    Of course, after I have enough info, that’ll inform me of what the next move is, I hope, because if I do anymore now I’ll just crumble

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    I didn’t say this in my other comment, but it’s important enough to be its own:

    If you think you’re going to be targeted, use the buddy system. Don’t go anywhere alone, for any reason, ever. One person is an easy target, two and especially three people are a lot harder to deal with.

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    Check this book with 20 relatively specific actions written by a historian https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Tyranny

    Also here are the rules briefly summarized. https://scholars.org/contribution/twenty-lessons-fighting-tyranny-twentieth

    I think this one rings particularly strong today.

    1. Take responsibility for the face of the world. The symbols of today enable the reality of tomorrow. Notice the swastikas and other signs of hate. Do not look away, and do not get used to them. Remove them yourself and set an example for others to do so.
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      In his Substack newsletter, Snyder encourages people to start organizing now (2024) in order to win both local and national elections.[15] He notes that On Tyranny was written in a defensive mode and that if its lessons are learned and implemented now things could get much better in 2025 for those who want to maintain democracy and the rule of law in the United States.[15] Snyder has noted that while Trump did not succeed in overturning the 2020 election, it was practice for a successful coup and his supporters will be better prepared for 2024.[16] He also notes that in 2020 important individuals and institutions were aware Trump might not want to peacefully transfer power if he lost the elections and that they prepared to make sure lawful transfer did occur.[16]

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        Sorry everyone, I meant to say violence is not the answer. If you check your history books you’ll see that Hitler was defeated by everyone keeping their heads down and voting him out of office at the next election.

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    Ok but I just want to clarify before we valiantly and romantically take the fight to fascists…

    … Did you muster the courage to vote for Harris, return2ozma?

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      Did you muster the courage to vote for Harris, return2ozma?

      No. I said I wouldn’t vote for a genocider multiple times throughout the year too. I’m in California so my POTUS vote had zero effect. I voted for everything else and left POTUS blank. Trump won in a landslide. Even if single issue voters about Gaza 100% voted for Harris, she still would have lost.

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        If down votes were votes, maybe Harris would have won in the swing states, and not California where your vote literally didn’t impact anything, except local elections.

        Don’t let them gaslight you into thinking that you somehow personally swayed every swing state to Trump’s fascism, while they stick their head in the sand of how Harris lost and why.

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          Last week a dude was swearing to me that Kamala lost because of the “I did that” Biden stickers

          Jesus fuck

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          So even though:

          • The popular vote doesn’t matter
          • Electoral College is all that matters
          • Ozma lives in California that voted for Harris
          • And that one vote doesn’t somehow flip the entire EC to Harris

          It’s his fault Harris lost?

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            I noticed you kind of hop-skipped past the whole down-ballot races thing, didn’t ya?

            You know. The California races that in the end decided who won the House? Sure hope their district had absolutely zero relevance whatsoever lol.

            Forgetting the fact that they seemed vocal enough in trying to stop others from voting for Harris, too. But I’ll eat my words if they can link a comment of theirs where they advised battleground voters to support Harris.

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              If I recall, they live in Long Beach, I don’t know the house results for that area.

              In my personal area, it was between two Republicans, one personally supported by Trump, one personally supported by Trump’s allies. Both were for Trump and his fuckery with the system. I r

              And on the Assembly, it was two Republicans again, “Republican shithead” and “Unknown crazy Republican shithead”.

              I hate living in redneck rural shithole…

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            lol when did I ever say you were a Republican? This is indicative of a broader education issue quite possibly.

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          Harris didn’t have to run on us having the most lethal military in the world, but she made that choice.

          It’s on her and establishment democrats at large.

          I don’t believe Democrats would have been any more humanitarian, they just take longer to do their killing. Just look at Gaza, that happened under a democrat. A gigantic demolition site sponsored by Biden.

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            haha!

            Trump says, “Finish the job” to Bibi while transferring the embassy to Jerusalem and you think you’re going to get more results with Trump than Harris? Even if at best the same, as the Venn Diagram proves, it’s deeply illogical. You drank the online Russian vodka and now more Palestinian blood is on your hands.

            (Forgetting the obvious fact that you’ve got Ukrainian blood on your hands now, too, since Ukrainians also wanted Harris over Trump)

            The kids want to “fight fascists! >:(” but can’t bother educating themselves on the issues enough to realize they’ve fallen for the classic — textbook even — BoTh SiDeS fallacy that is peddled every election cycle.

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      this is how the apartheid government was beat in south africa: minimize civilian casualties, maximize infrastructure damage with state targets being prioritized.