Windows isn’t ready for daily driving imo, it’s risky to use such an unstable OS for high importance tasks.
It’s fine if you want to tinker and experiment with a different OS, but for day to day usage I think you should really be using something more stable.
…this has to be a BSD guy talking.
No, where I work we use macs. Everyone has a Mac and our policys prohibit windows as a work os
macOS is practically a BSD though (XNU is a modified Mach microkernel with a BSD layer bolted on top of it)
Modern macOS has diverged significantly from its bsd origins.
Interesting. I’ve used Mac for years and for the last 2 or 3, macOS has really gone downhill. What line of work are you in that bans windows? The entire point of windows is enterprise management, which macOS is famously bad at.
We work in health data, but we also done have enterprise management.
When a review was done about 6 years ago, windows was a big risk in how we work
Oh yea, windows is a huge risk, but convincing management and IT not to use it is a monumental task.
I actually work with health data too and we upgraded to win11 micro PCs and it’s not going well.
I’m in the IT/systems team and where I work we make the rules on what you can use, then have the power to make it apply to everyone even directors.
But then I don’t have a manager, it’s a flat structure.
Seriously, this right here is why I stopped using windows for work and switched to linux for professional reasons. Windows is not serious business software because of shit like this.
Hell, this is why I went out of my way to make sure I could control updates for my personal machine where the only consequences of it doing a random update would be that I can’t use it until it’s done. I didn’t even ever have it actually do an annoying update because the frustration was obvious as soon as I heard the term “automatic updates”, like this isn’t just for some program, it’s for the OS itself and will demand restarts.
And that isn’t even mentioning the undesirable updates, like the buggy ones or the ones that just enshitify your OS rather than add anything anyone wants, like all those windows 7 “get ready for windows 10” ones and apparently some people even got an automatic “7 to 10” update.
And then on Linux, every part of updating is nicer, other than the supply chain attacks (which is unfortunately serious enough I could see it threatening the entire Linux ecosystem itself).
Nice that you work at a place that allows that. Self employed?
There are a lot of places that allow Linux in a business/corporate environment
This was the main readon I switched to Linux. It’s my computer so I decide when it’s time to update.
My coworker’s nursing program made her buy a PoS Dell laptop for 1.4k with windows and presumably a bunch of anti cheat software.
“I’m afraid I can’t let you do that”
I use to have this and other sounds from 2001 as system sounds.
I should do that, that sounds fun
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OP is getting fucked alright.
Remember this day when you purchase your next computer.
Obviously there’s a hundred joke comments about using Linux but it if you already had a ventoy USB lying around, it would unironically be faster to liveboot a distro, install libre office and then prsent your pptx (or log into google slides and do the same).
It’s your mistake, never schedule a presentation after a patch Tuesday
(I’m joking, fuck this shit, Wednesday I had to fight all the computers “OMG a new update it’s out, can I reboot now???”)
Lol were you my cyber security policy consultant? Because he was late to his own meeting for this very reason yesterday morning.
After your presentation, be sure to configure active hours so it never happens again.
Unless something has changed, this setting was entirely worthless during Win10
I had to set up a group policy to turn it off. Even defen-dor ignores group policy rules half the time. I probably should set up router rules to black list it all.
You may be right. I’ve been on Win11 for 5 years now.
Unless that’s locked down by enterprise policy.
We had an email sent out yesterday morning saying that a critical update was being pushed out to all windows devices and would require a reboot within an hour of the time of the email.
That would be a corporate directive then, and the company would know PC’s are out of commission for 5-10 minutes.
Lol
Thats different because if it were enterprise policy it would happen on windows Mac and linux.
how it go
We need to know!
Good thing it does it when you aren’t active! Windows #1!
IDK why anyone has automatic updates enabled, precisely because of this ocurring at frustrating times. Can this not be disabeled anymore or something?
The user-facing options only allow you to delay updates for up to a month. There is no way to permanently disable automatic updates from there. If you are a power user, there are ways that use things like group policy, registry keys, etc. But you may not have access to those if you are on a work or school computer, as that is managed by your IT team.
Windows updates whether you want it to or not. whether you have auto-update on or not.
This isnt new with windows 11.
I almost got stuck in an airport because windows 10 decided to update, despite being in standby, in my laptop bag like 10 years ago.
not in windows.
Yes, you can. I hate Windows and its eagerness to update whenever, but that behaviour is configurable.
In the Windows Update settings, under Advanced options, disable “⏩ Get me up to date” then set your “Active hours” to “Manually” then set an 18 hour block that doesn’t conflict with your work day, like 6 am till midnight. At least in theory, you’ll only get updates applied when you deliberately reboot or leave your machine on overnight.
Edit: if you’re really keen, you can use a tool like O&O ShutUp10 (it works on 11, too), or edit the registry to completely disable auto updates.
no. you can’t.
it’s set in policy on enterprise installs and you have to reghack to get it to stop.
that’s not it working, that’s a hack.
What a strange response. You’ve said that deferring updates can’t be done on Windows. It’s plain factually incorrect. You’re literally quoting that policy can control it but saying it can’t be controlled, but you see no contradiction. Real enterprise uses WSUS, which absolutely can defer updates, it’s one of the main selling points.
Not everyone uses that, and group policy is sufficient for plenty of orgs. The link in my earlier comment clearly explains how policy and registry settings can avoid OP’s problem, so “no you can’t” alone, is a ridiculous and incorrect response. That there exist cases where enterprise makes it more difficult does not mean that it is not possible. It’s arguably easier with enterprise because IT can push those settings out to everyone and make sure no one has those interruptions.
Not a sure thing, though, and IT policy often disables those options.
Your IT dept. has to be pretty shit if they’re controlling those policies but not setting basic work hours. Turning off that restart asap crap is the norm, because management/c-suite get pissed off by random restarts and immediately blame IT.
wow, spoken like someone who is clueless about how enterprise solutions work.
I thought you might just be inexperienced, but now I can see you’re just an armchair idiot.
I have a laptop and a PC with the same settings. The laptop forces updates, the PC doesn’t and I have no idea why.
Hence the qualifier:
At least in theory
I only have it in the VM but even there I tried all kinds of things like hacks in the registry and all kinds of services disabled only to discover sometime later that it tried to update.
I just set it read only so that it just can’t do that now, anymore. It’s such a virus…
Sorry you were at least half an hour late to your presentation.
