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    I used to work in a large fishing ship as an engineer, there I became an atheist. Once there was a huge storm and we had to balance the ship to make sure it wouldnt roll, the guy who had to do it was praying and didnt have time to balance it, we almost died because he had mandatory pray time. From than we had a rule that there is no religion on the ship, once we come back to land than you can believe.

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      From what I hear of Islam on e.g. fasting it tends to be quite a practical religion. I’d not be surprised if that guy could in fact have not been praying at that moment and still stuck to all the teachings of his religion.

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        Yeah this is not at all how praying works in Islam. Of course you don’t pray if you’re practically unable to do so safely.

        It is also considered a sin if you choose to fast under circumstances that put your health in danger.

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        Apparently (I’m not a scholar but was curious) in dire situations that require immediate action they could’ve prayed while helping out, even shortening it out as long as the short (verbal?) prayer is done in honesty and the situation absolutely demands it. Apparently it’s even outright disallowed to not safe yourself or others during life-and-death situations even if it prevents you from the mandatory prayer because preserving people’s lifes and your own tops those rules, at least that’s what I read so far. If that boat story is actually true that person probably was a dipshit who happened to break his own religion’s rules.

        Also looked up fasting: There seems to be even more leeway on that. Just do it later if you can’t do it right now due to illness or similar, or pay “fidyah” (give poor people money for food). Though I’m kinda curious how it’s handled when someone is too old to fast but also poor as fuck, not a situation where you’d want to also feel guilty about this.

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          Same as every religion, there are extremists and ignorants, like all the christians ignoring the bible and the 10 commandments while pretending that the current president of the US was handpicked by their god to save them.

          Or maybe the person thought “We’re already beyond fucked, might as well die a pious death while praying, bet that will get me into the A list”, or some variation of that.

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          Young, expectant, illness, or age are all specifically exempt from fasting. At least that is how it works for the Baha’is, and they are to Islam as Christianity is to Judaism, so I assume they copied the rest of the fasting rules verbatim. I do know that the Muslims fast from sunup to sundown same as Baha’i

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          Sure. I’m skeptical that any of those disciplines except perhaps extremely minor, strict ones teach that you have to continue praying, in your knees, in an emergency.

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            From speaking with Muslims during Ramadan, if there’s a bona fide emergency that takes priority over prayer no questions asked. Anyone who says otherwise is an extremist or wrong.

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      There’s a great scene in Das Boot where the crew ends up trapped on the bottom of the Straight of Gibraltar. One guy starts fingering his rosary beads and praying and another guy punches him in the face and says “cut that shit out, we’ve got work to do!”

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    This guy was only a “new co-worker” because I was the new employee, but: my first day on a new job I watched a guy get escorted out of the building by security carrying his shit in a cardboard box. His story ended up on the local news. Turned out he was running a prostitution ring from his office, using his work computer even. He had an 800 number that redirected to his office phone, and he kept track of his girls and customers on an Excel spreadsheet on his Windows desktop. The only reason he got caught was that the company upgraded everybody’s computers, and they had techs check through all the old machines to make sure no important documents got deleted, and they found “CallGirls.xls” or something like that right on his desktop. Security through dumbassery.

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      Stories like this piss me off because they convice me that i would be an absolutely incredible criminal; did this dude not know about usb-sticks?

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        did this dude not know about usb-sticks?

        Even before that, dude didn’t even try to make it look plausibly legitimate so it didn’t invite suspicion for when someone inevitably stumbled on the file.

        Dude was definitely never a kid with only shared access to a computer, that’s for sure…

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        Any mid to large size company has the USB ports of their desktop PCs disabled, disconnected or even glued shut. At least the ones that take security seriously.

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          I can’t imagine doing my job with a computer like that. I need to be able to plug in scanners and label printers and other specialty equipment and swap out peripherals as they break like how would that even work?

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            Normally those are pre-approved by IT and you wouldn’t be the one swapping those out. You would put in a request saying hey this item is broken can you please troubleshoot it and somebody would come out troubleshoot it and swap it out as needed.

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              Then IT needs to be onsite 24/7 and that’s just not realistic for a looot of places. Especially not rural med but I’m in in a hospital in a mid to large size city I’m just in 50 bed or so location that’s in a part of the city nobody GAF about.

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                Usb devices have addresses that include the vendor and product id. So IT can allow list from approved products or vendors and that will prevent people randomly plugging in devices and infecting the network. Though, it wouldnt stop a malcious device from spoofing an address from a approved device, but an targeted attack needs more sophisticatation security anyway.

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                I do a lot of work for a hospital system in the intermountain West. They do have rural locations. And they do have IT stuff that is on call 24/7 at every single one of their locations. So it’s not unheard of it’s not unusual it’s pretty normal. I do a good chunk of the work I do for them which is mainly network and systems upgrades as well as Wi-Fi and access points. And I do most of it overnight with one of their IT staff.

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      As an employee of more years than I care to count, I can safely say the missing component here is “training”. I know this because I am going through that right now (for at least the 20th time in my life).

      Why I just leaned that you are NOT supposed to take assets from the company. Amazing knowledge to gain after all these years! They even added that “taking assets” even extends to “taking cash”. Well, I’ll say; I’ve never felt more informed in all my life!

      How the heck did I make it this far in life without “knowing” that kind of information? Because everyone knows that employees don’t know anything (or have any morals) until HR tells it to them. /s

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    A new, young PC technician was hired and from the get go he was practically blowing himself with claims he’ll be promoted quickly, he could do the job of 2 people, nobody works harder than him. Less than 2 months into the job someone calls the dept asking where he is because he was supposed to swap out a PC for a director at an off-site location. His manager called his cell and asked where he was. He told em he was just finishing up Cathy’s PC and he’ll be back on site.

    Manager: “Cathy just called me asking why you haven’t shown up yet. So I’ll ask again…where the hell are you?”

    Turns out he was hung-the-fuck-over and napping at home. He got canned very quickly.

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      The people that scream the loudest about being hard working or intelligent usually aren’t. If someone is good at something, they don’t need to point it out.

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        Or they feel so much imposter syndrome that they keep quiet.

        I mean I am probably not even good enough to have imposter syndrome, its probably the Dunning Kruger effect.

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          Nice, you just did either the first derivative of imposter syndrome, or you made it recursive, but I’m probably too shit to tell which

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        The people that scream the loudest about being hard working or intelligent usually aren’t.

        Oh absolutely 110%. I could count on all my and your fingers and toes the number of coworkers I’ve had who spent half the day walking around chitchatting that they were the hardest worker, first in last out…they undeniably never were.

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        What’s worse than both is “I’ve been doing this for X amount of years!” Because then they’re both dumb and incompetent. If they say they have 20 years of experience usually it means 20X1st year of experience.

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    No later than 2 weeks ago a new marketing guy thought the best thing once he got his laptop was to start a thread of memes on Teams with everybody. People were already leaving left and right when I started paying attention to it. Unfortunately for him, when he sent an animation of a cartoon character doing a nazi salute I called him out on it saying that’s not ok, the HR manager was still in the thread. Dude lasted half a day on this job.

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    I know someone who got his dream job in Brazil. His plane landed and he asked his local host where he can get some halal lunch. He was told that there didn’t seem to be any halal food options in the city that’s the host knew of. Guy got on a same day flight and flew back home. This was 20 years ago.

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        If they’re eating halal for reasons they dont seek to change (religious or otherwise) it can be extremely difficult to “cook at home” because you need to secure halal food sources, which if there aren’t even any restaurants with halal food, it may be extremely difficult to secure halal ingredients

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          Fish, seafood, fruits, vegetables, grains, nuts, legumes like rice, wheat, beans, and lentils … all default halal, no?

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            No. Halal is basically Kosher for Muslims. So much so that my Muslim friends are perfectly happy getting lunch at the local kosher deli. The animals must be butchered a very specific way, and overseen by a Jewish or Muslim authority to be kosher or halal respectively.

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            I have no idea. Wikipedia says

            Made, produced, manufactured, processed, and stored using machinery, equipment, and/or utensils that have been cleaned according to Islamic law (shariah).

            i don’t know enough about Islamic law to say whether or not are default halal. They could be. I dunno!

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            Yes, plant-based foods can be halal, and in many cases, they are by default. Fruits, vegetables, grains, nuts, and legumes are all naturally halal as long as they are not processed or prepared with haram substances. […] If these foods are handled, flavoured, or packaged with non-halal ingredients such as alcohol, gelatine, or animal-derived enzymes, they may no longer be considered halal.

            I don’t know how reputable Halalification is, but it was high on the list of search results and the entire answer seems well-reasoned.

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            I think that seafood is basically the same as with Kosher… so you can only eat things from the sea that have both fins and scales. Or is it gills and scales?

            I worked with a Muslim in Amsterdam who ordered vegetarian because he was pretty sure it would be Halal. That was 20 years ago, so maybe he’d have an easier time eating non-vegetarian now? I see lots of Halal signs in restaurant windows, but who knows?

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          If I got my dream job and it required me to be a pescatarian, vegetarian, or vegan: my diet would change immediately.

          I get liking meat but damn.

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            If your job asked you to eat dog would you do it?

            Because thas what your asking.

            Halal isn’t a preference, its a standard for how meat is killed and prepared all the way to your food to your plate.

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              I think you got the post you’re replying to completely backwards.

              They’re saying in that man’s shoes, they’d adopt a diet like pescetarianism or become vegan, which would allow them to practice halal even without needing dedicated halal meat sources.

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              That’s a very poor strawman analogy.

              A better analogy is, if your dream job said you could no longer eat steak or chicken, would you do it? If your dream job required you to eat a vegan or vegetarian diet, would you?

              OP wasn’t suggesting that the person eat non-halal meat, they were suggesting they just don’t eat meat.

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                Yeah i missed that, but that’s still a huge ask of people, and they have the privilege of being able to do that…

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                  The privilege of being vegetarian or vegan would probably increase the health of our society quite a bit, as well as our environment if everyone adopted that standard.

                  Either way: if I’m getting my dream job out of it I’ll go full vegan gluten free hard mode yo.

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      What city would that be? In São Paulo there’s plenty of halal restaurants, in Rio there’s a couple. In other parts of the country could be more difficult.

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      My uni has places selling halal food nearby, but they’re expensive so I just eat vegan.

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    If you can understand a smoke break, you can understand a prayer break. It’s not that hard.

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            Back then yeah. I also had to ask for time off and often got denied.

            I once got denied for time off to help a family member who was in the hospital who I was going to drive home.

            I told them I’m not abandoning family and took off any way and got fired.

            This was after I gave a months notice and marked my schedule unavailable.

            I’ve also got fired for a similar situation but for a college final that I literally could not reschedule or miss.

            Now I’m highly qualified and at a much better job. And I still, decades later, have a ton of anxiety about asking for off. And theyre like “if you need off, take off, why are you so worried about it?”

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        I used to get fresh air breaks.

        It was at some point, I worked at jobs that didn’t give a shit if you disappeared for 15-30 minutes every hour, as long as you got your shit done.

        I recommend everyone find those jobs.

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          Yeah, seems to be what I have found. Small companies with a skilled workforce so far in my experience have been the best.

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            Absolutely! Everyone wants to knock on small office jobs. The Office TV show is was a great example. Half the time it’s people doing enough to keep the company running. The other half was dumb shit. Nobody was tracking your piss times or micromanaging how many M&Ms you ate.

            But I absolutely had my ass micromanaged when I was working in a warehouse or a restaurant.

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      For some people, it is in fact difficult to compute said action.

      Prayers are a spiritual experience and practice, whereas the only thing you get out of smoking is a medical bill. They still want the latter because it’s a physical effect they can observe.

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        They can work you harder when you have lung cancer or long term illness from smoking and you need their medical insurance coverage.

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    Worked in a lab where this lady sat down to read some SOPs and within an hour said “I’m not feeling it” and quit in that moment.

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    I was training a new hire. She was good, better than me in some respects.

    But one day she came in and did no work, just sat there shaking… insisting she was fine.

    Turns out she was tweaking, she came in high.

    She was given a final warning but then she came high again and was fired.

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        That’s funny, considering how many people have told me that most of the people in food service are high due to how stressful it is. Maybe heroin isn’t the drug of choice, though.

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          Weed. It’s easy to just hit a pen in the bathroom, and it relaxes you without making you literally incapable of doing the job. I’m sure other drugs are common in food service too, but the one I saw regularly was weed.

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      Just say you’re sick and go home. It isn’t that hard. Don’t try to play it off and work anyway. Not unless you’re really, really good.

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    Negative minutes. Kid just out of college, the CMO (a monster of a human) had cosigned and bragged about how good this person was. They didn’t show up first day, hour past, someone called and HE was upset that a car hadn’t been sent to pick him up at home and he was waiting… Ridiculous in any scenario really, but this was in a car-brained major city where all people drove themselves, up to the CEO. Not common at all to have a car service. Was let go immediately in a probation period and CMO never mentioned it again.

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    A newly onboarded guy told everyone over lunch that the next day was going to be a bank holiday where he is from, so he won’t come in to work. We told him that it’s not a bank holiday around here. He became quite upset about this. Then the line manager got wind of that.
    He didn’t turn up the next day… or on any day after that.