Article is in italian I couldn’t find any news about this in english but i believe it’s really important to share.
"Sono attesi dagli 80 ai 90 aerei all’aeroporto Marco Polo di Venezia. Jet privati da Los Angeles, New York, Londra e Dubai scaricheranno in laguna un carico scintillante di star, imprenditori, supermodelle, influencer e tycoon. Il traffico aereo privato sarà talmente intenso da richiedere un coordinamento speciale tra l’aeroporto di Venezia e gli scali di riserva a Verona e Treviso. "
Translation:
"80 to 90 planes are expected at Venice’s Marco Polo airport. Private jets from Los Angeles, New York, London and Dubai will unload a glittering cargo of stars, entrepreneurs, supermodels, influencers and tycoons into the lagoon. Private air traffic will be so intense that it will require special coordination between Venice airport and the reserve stopovers in Verona and Treviso. "
He will cheat on her while she does the pool boy. It’s the new/old thing for the rich.
“I’m not super familiar with the lifestyles of the rich and famous. What, exactly, does a pool boy even do?”
“Uhhhh… The wife.”
I give them a year.
Well that sounds efficient.
This is where God gets to prove he’s real, and he’s on the side of the people. If it’s true, Venice will finally sink into the sea and become a legend, like Atlantis.
If that happens, I’ll finally go to church every Sunday. Hear me God? That’s what it will take.
If the richs die from the hand of heaven I’ll be the first preacher
It will be sad for all the art and historical artifacts. But (the) god(s) can make the funniest entertainment for them and the world
I’ll go with you.
I’m still going to want to have a hard talk with God about why She allows cancer babies and such…
Won’t someone rid me of these pesky Sociopathic Oligarchs?
All the Sociopathic Oligarchs in the same place at once? Look, I’d normally be against this sort of thing, but if someone wants to drop a nuke on Venice, I could excuse it just this once.
Good luck, 47.
If only.
90 private jets polluting the planet just to see one rich asshole say ”I do”.
“I do*”
I bet there’s an open bar aswell.
looks down at paper straw dissolving in glass of water
This is exactly why I don’t feel guilt about my statistically insignificant contribution towards climate change.
I wonder how many jet flights do a single year of collective paper straw using offsets
according to this wiki article, over its lifetime a plastic straw will release 1,46 grams of CO2, while a paper straw will release 1,38 grams of CO2. that’s a saving of 0,08 grams.
and according to this article, a private jet releases 4,9 kilograms of CO2 per mile.
so: assuming you are using one straw per day, a year of using paper straws instead of plastic straws offsets about 0,006 miles of one private jet, or a bit more than 10 meters.
that’s fun.
tbh, the real reason to use paper straws instead of plastic is that they’re much more biodegradable, not so much the CO2 use. we should use way less plastic in general, imo
and it bears mentioning that the CO2 released by private jets still pales in comparison to what the airline industry produces; the average global northerner’s overseas holiday is still very destructive for the environment (tho obviously not as much as a rich fuck using a private jet)
If you compute it per person I suspect a billionaire is probably producing (just due to flights) about 10000 to 50000 more than an average traveller (couple international flights a year).
To be honest the planet does not care how you compute it.
Quick google-fu said private jets are about 1,8% of the total airtravel pollution. If you want whats good for the earth, focus on the half empty and empty commercial flights that big airlines do because they want to keep their hangar places. That makes much bigger part of the overall pollution.
I say: let the rich fly, just make it so they pay enough taxes for it compencate for it.
Oh no I am fully on board with this. But it still boils to the same source of governments serving the interest of the rich rather than the remaining people. Airplane companies pushing agendas and asking for government incentives while governments say they really care about the planet but not making enough effort to make train travel cheaper (international per mile especially) than flying. Fucking hell they should incentivize the hell out of it so that it becomes cheap as chips and people take flights only for long distances. So yes commercial flights are definitely also a part of the problem.
The planet does not care about taxes either.
The reason per person footprint is important because we can’t just turn off all pollution. We have to gradually reduce it.
You can’t just say to your country “by the way, we just banned fossil fuels”, that will just result in you dead and a pro-pollution guy being in charge of the country next day.
The way to reduce pollution is to get more output from the same input. That is, efficiency.
Private jets are incredibly inefficient and are used by an extremely low percentage of the population. There’s no reason to keep that 1.8% just to satisfy 0.0001% of the population.
Just to walk you trough my reasoning.
Change needs money. That 1,8% can generates lots of money that can be used to fight pollution in other ways. We could easily rise the taxation and that 1,8% could turn in to 1,5% or something.
If we start to ban private jets conpletelly by changings laws, it will be long process and even if one country bans it there will always be poor countries or tax heavens that will find a way to enable it. It will turn in to a game of aviation wack-a-mole and the gran price of that work will be 1,8% reduce in emission.
On the other hand we could make bigger impact from commercial side while not losing tax revenue as much. Its hard to get real numbers but its likely ghost flights alone are close to same pollution as private jets, not to mention that average commercial flights has only 80% of the seats filled.
So my thinking in short is that any impact with banning private jets is dwarfed by anything done in the commercial side.
And im not saying private jets are good. Im against those. People just need to understand that they are very minor part of the aviation pollution.
Well I am glad I can buy a CEO 10 meters of flight time. My estimates is that our collective world wide yearly efforts can just about earn our top 100 richest turds their annual flight pollution.
Well, a quick Google search says billions of straws are used every day.
A straw seemingly cointans 0.42 grams of plastic.
So by using paper straws, assuming just 1 billion straws a day, we save 420 million grams (420 tons) of plastic.
Assuming it takes the same amount of oil to create a kg of plastic and a kg of fuel, that is 420 tons of fuel a day, just over 150k tons of fuel a year.
An average private jet has a capacity of around 20 tons of fuel (looked up G650 on Wikipedia).
So, the global paper straw usage offsets at least 7500 private jet flights. More if we use more than a billion straws, and more if we assume a jet doesn’t fully burn 100% of the tank on every flight.
Thanks for the calculation. Sounds about right, according to the link below the top of the ladder billionaire flies about a couple hundred times a year and consumes about 2000 tonnes of fuel. So the fuel consumption you calculated is about 70 billionaires. It is generally true that the top hundred richest people in the world consume/obtain about as much resources as the rest of the world so that calculation is believable.
https://carboncredits.com/the-curious-case-of-top-ceos-private-jet-emissions/
More importantly: what’s the carbon footprint of an anti air missile?
Id estimate something in the regions of 0
Probably enough to cover just starting the engines
unload a glittering cargo of stars, entrepreneurs, supermodels, influencers and tycoons into the lagoon
If only that were literally true
We need a French solution to the billionaire problem.
˙ooʇ sʞɹoʍ ǝuo uɐᴉlɐʇI u∀
Don’t forgot the horse drawn…person
It was the British that sent their criminals to Australia.
/s
They sent them to North America first. The charting and colonisation of NSW happened shortly after the US declared independence, not a coincidence. Of course now the inbred aristocracy doesn’t run this place any more so you can keep your worst thanks
They all gathered together for this. The British Guy Fawkes may have had a better solution.
But hey, we should do the right thing, save the environment and buy his ev truck!
Don’t forget to turn off the lights (those LED lights that consumes practically nothing), and recycle (but forget that recycling companies do not actually recycle anything).
As for that EV, it seems an easy way to shame poor people who cannot afford it.
Every time, this world feels like a big joke. Once I retire, I’ll get a cabin in the woods and forget about all this.
I’ll get a cabin in the woods and forget about all this.
Enjoy the uncontrolled wildfires. There’s no escaping the damaging effects of capitalism.
That’s why I built my cabin underground
Is your Saddam Hussein structural?
Good luck living through the ever-increasing frackquakes…
Poor people are who should use EVs the most. They have been on the market for 15 years now, you can get dirt cheap older models. Bolt, eGolf, Zoe or Leaf can be had for under 5k. Cheaper to power, cheaper to maintain, cheaper to run. Plus more convenient and fun, subjectively.
Also recycling is part of “reduce, reuse, recycle”, which not only can help “save the planet”, it will definitely and immediately save your wallet. Even if someone supposed to do the recycling, doesn’t.
5k? Not where I live, and you need charging stations, and sometimes subscriptions (for the Zoe). EV start at 30k in France, it’s a luxury car that poor people cannot afford and/or charge.
As for the reduce, reuse, we all do that already. I was referring to recycling which don’t not happen compared to rich people who are shaming us and destroying the planet at the same time.
BTW, you don’t need a subscription for the Zoe. You can either buy the battery or rent it, but there’s no subscription.
rent it, but there’s no subscription.
I’m confused by your semantics.
Subscription: pay for functionality or services. Like Netflix, Amazon Ring, Adobe Suite, Tesla Enhanced Autopilot, BMW heated seats, etc
Rent: use a physical object without buying it, paying per month: an apartment, an office, a car on vacation, the battery for your car if you are afraid of the FUD.
They’re both monthly fees.
Le bullshit
100% those are scam listings or bait and switch. You get there and they “just sold it” but here’s one they just happen to have that’s 3x the price, let’s get you a loan for 35%apr.
3x1.5 is 4.5k. Still a good price for an EV BTW.
There’s one on the lot near my house for 4k. Still less than 30k. Still bullshit.
Brand new cars for 1500€? I wouldn’t waste my time on such scams.
In no world are 4+ year old cars with 20k kms on them “new”.
46k KM
“new”
Less than 100k km is new. Yes.
Who the fuck buys brand new cars??? No wonder you are poor. Buying a new car is a fucking luxury. 40% depreciation on the first day.
I explicitly said that EVs have been on the market for 15 years so you can get a USED one for cheap.
Who the fuck buys brand new cars???
I bought a new car. I did so in late 2021. My wife and I needed a new vehicle (we had been using her parents’ car while they were away, but they had come back), and the used car market was insanely inflated. To the point where the value of a new car actually made sense, especially when coupled with the supplier discount I had access to and the features we wanted.
Someone has to buy new cars. Where do you think used cars come from?
No wonder you are poor
How convenient when I talked before about shaming poor people.
How about improving income distribution so people can buy a decent new car? It is fucking pathetic that the US income distribution is on the same level as fucking Russia.
New cars have always been a bad investment, a luxury item. You can get a year old car with 5k on the clock for a 40% discount. I’m all for improving income (and wealth) distribution, but everyone buying new cars should not be the goal.
You can get a year old car with 5k on the clock for a 40% discount.
No you can’t. That’s maybe what the dealership will pay you for a trade-in, but not what you would pay to purchase such a vehicle.
Well, it’s what I paid for mine in 2019, so you are free to belive what you want. Discounts between 10% and 40% are expected:
Pre-covid and post-covid are completely different markets. Also, this situation is different in countries where you have to have a car to get anywhere like in most of Canada and the US.
So, ev’s age such that the EV’s die with the batteries. Most the EVs on the used market are teslas* or absolutely at their end of life, as far as value goes-most of the cost of an ev is in those batteries.
While I don’t disagree with the sentiment… the reality is that used evs are a shitty option. What we need to be doing, that would benefit everyone, is building out mass transit, that run 24/7 and at reasonable frequencies.
(*which there are oh-so-many reasons to not drive, including that Tesla will still be profiting from you, even if you get it used. Because they track the shit out of you driving to train their FSD.)
The EV battery dying the moment you look at it funny is a myth, if I were conspiratorial I’d say by the oil industry, but I firmly believe hanlon razor comes into play here.
Yes they degrade, but they are still useful.
LFP batteries (introduced around 2020) have an estimated lifespan of a million kilometers. The NMC ones less, around 400k, with warranties covering 200k.
If you are really worried despite all the data, Renault allows you to buy the car and rent the batteries. Those cars are on the market for about 3k nowadays, plus battery rent 60€ a month. Never worry about the battery, if it degrades Renault gives you a new one. They know they will make a big profit, because again, batteries don’t degrade that easily.
Mass transit is the best solution but plenty of people still need cars, and for those people used EVs are the best economic (and ecological) option.
Yeah.
So you’re kinda full of it aren’t you?
15yo ev’s driven normally are going going to be out of warranty, and probably pretty close to EoL, which was my point to start with.
Most used EVs on the market are approaching their end of life. And with batteries, range goes down before it’s technically EoL,
The mileage you dropped is just another way to say that.
You don’t need to buy the first ever model produced, do you? You can buy a 10 year old car, which if driven 10k a year still has half the life of its battery available. Chances are it wasn’t used for road trips so it will have been driven less than 10k a year, leaving maybe 75% of its useful life. Even the first ones ever produced could have 5 or 10 years in them, depending on usage and mileage. Used EVs ARE NOT close to EoL in most cases.
Plus you can get it inspected, get a battery certificate or even a second hand warranty of you are soooo worried. Or, as I said before, you buy the car and rent the battery. Doesn’t make economic sense, but falling to propaganda never does. There are easy solutions besides ranting on the internet.
Again, hanlon razor applies here, so I don’t think you are sponsored by the oil industry, but you repeat their taking points exactly.
Again, hanlon razor applies here, so I don’t think you are sponsored by the oil industry, but you repeat their taking points exactly.
While I don’t disagree with the sentiment… the reality is that used evs are a shitty option. What we need to be doing, that would benefit everyone, is building out mass transit, that run 24/7 and at reasonable frequencies.
Yes. Totally the talking points of Big Oil.
Totally.
You’re full of shit.
A quick search, and average EU driving is about 10k km/year.
Being generous here and not using the more-than-double American numbers, you can expect a typical decade-old ev to have lost about 20% of its range, and having had about 200km max range when it was out, for about 160km.
Fine for daily commute, sure. Not fine if the owner ever wants to visit another city, for oh so many reasons. Not like us poors have a life. Nope all we ever do is commute, work, and go home. That’s all life is….
Also, the truck in question will be pretty cheap and suitable for developing countries, so that’s Jeffie accidentally doing the right thing for once. Just because he’s involved in financing some project, doesn’t mean it’s bad.
Until it is on the market for the supposed cheap price it is just a rich fuck pretending to do the right thing.
Remember when Teslas was going to have a budget model?
It’s not his truck, he was a series A funder among many. The CEO of Slate is a woman with an idea.
Them: “Save the planet!”
Bezos: “… and redeem it for valuable prizes!”
A woman with an idea who took funding from bezos.
Her choice.
My choice is to not have anything to do with bezos, as much as I humanly can. And that includes not buying products he will profit from.
Sucks that a small frame single cab pickup truck has to comeback under Bezos, because it is the perfect example of a sane size and price truck, but being attached to Bezos and electric only kills it for me. I was super interested until I did research on the company. I really wish they’d bring back the tiny (by today’s standards) Toyota trucks with the full size bed. Like the mid 90s Tacoma with no lift
My first car was a Toyota Tacoma. I miss that thing. The bed was low so you didn’t have to kill your back, too.
And for all those “I use it for my job” types, they’d have more use out of a freaking transit connect.
When SUVs became “family vehicles”, instead of the dick-compensation-machines, marketing said “ahah! Big trucks!” And now big trucks are the dick compensation machines.
Wait he has an ev truck now too?? Is this part of the douchebag checklist? Space company, ev truck, …
He funds slate.
The thing seems designed to be repairable.He’s working on producing a “bare bones” ev pick up.
It’s like these people are parodies of themselves.
So that if Trump goes after 4 years and is replaced back by a democrat he is going to turn back to democrat voters and tell them “look I sent women to space, I am super into environmental issues and I actually was a big fan of DEI so I am implementing them back again”. For him it is just hedging bets.
It would be a shame if something were to happen to so many billionaires gathered conspicuously in one place on a very publicized date
That’s why they picked Italy, Italy loves fascism
Italy is also home of the people who responded to that regime by dragging Mussolini and his wife’s bodies after their assassination across the country back to Milan, where they were unceremoniously dumped in a town square to be humiliated and desecrated, then hung on girders above a service station in the square by their ankles until they fell and subsequently were buried in unmarked graves.
Inspiring.
If only alk fascists died that way…
but it’s also the land of many Luigis, so there’s hope
Skyrim something about Vici.
dont give me ideas…
Use dots of different color nail polish to color code keys!
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Maybe we will get lucky and some/all will fall into the canals and drown.
Now that’s what I call a target rich environment
We need you Luigi
Send more blue shells
