I rewatched Wall-E the other day. I forgot just how staggeringly good that movie is. How the hell does every single robot have their own personality. Not to mention how everyone that Wall-E interacts with ends up for the better, after a lil chaos, of course. I cried so many times. I’m 33.
Wall-E functioned
He was definitely not running windows
Clearly Linux
BSD even, he can’t do a lot of things but god damnit he does the things he can do well
Yeah but all of the other Wall-Es were left broken by a mandatory Tuesday Windows Update
Yeah, he had the mac boot up noise lol
The pre cloud OG Mac boot up sound. Eve is more like an IPhone. Sleek white and locked down but great when it’s connected and working.
Anyone else have an older Mac still ticking away? I have a 2007 20” that’s only had an HD->SSD upgrade and is still good for email file and printer serving and remote backups to FireWire and usb HDs.
I’ve got an old 8 core Mac Pro (the perforated giant aluminum one) too, but haven’t bothered booting it in 6-7 years. It was my render farm for Keyshot for years but I think one of the Ram modules failed at some point.
Can relate, Wall-E is easily my favorite Pixar movie
Untill I saw UP. I just broke at that first scene. It’s just such a fantastic tale about life and the journey it is.
Up, wall-e, Toy story 1-3 are Pixar prime.
Wall-E was my whole personality as a child.
As a child? In my perception the movie just came out… wait… Breaks down for being old
Walle had the Apple startup chime when he recharged
True. It was also an extremely commercialized capitalist dystopian future. I doubt Linux was being used, and there’s no way Microsoft could create something with WALL-E’s long uptime and low maintenance.
Companies taking advantage of Linux to create locked down, proprietary systems is pretty common. For example, Android is Linux. Many smart TVs run some flavor of Linux. E.g. Tizen from Samsung is Linux based. If a company can short cut the software development process and licensing costs by using Linux, that’s often a first choice. So, my bet would be on Wall-E running on a version of Linux.
The dystopian part would be that the company locked it’s drivers behind a closed source model, and only included highly obscured binaries on Wall-E’s OS. Motors and controllers would be non-standard, requiring closed source firmware and the hardware would refuse to work with any software which isn’t signed by an original manufacturer’s digital certificate. Using an unsigned binary would blow a fuse in Wall-E’s CPU, killing him.
I think Wall-E wasn’t running the base OS anymore. All the other Wall-E units had long since stopped functioning. Wall-E was the result of a random mutation of a bug in the code, not the intended normal state.
Whoops, you almost mentioned that it’s not actually Microsoft making the computer, they make the OS. While Mac makes the exact same but a little worse hardware that can only use one specific os that also reports everything and demands updates to start
While Microsoft is primarily a software company, they’ve been making CPUs and AI accelerators for several months now.
Also, by all accounts, Apple Silicon outperforms every other SOC on the market.
Apple 2 vs. MacBook
Early-2000s PowerMac vs. MacBook
Not only that, Wall-E got crushed and was able to be rebuilt and booted up like nothing ever happened.
The difference between wall-e and eve makes me think of cars. How old and even some modern combustion cars are built well and engineered to be highly modular and user serviceable. EVs are highly proprietary. They rely on closed systems that can’t practically be serviced without special equipment.
Don’t get me wrong. I’m NOT a fan of fossil fuels at all. I just don’t like how cars have been slowly morphing into proprietary unreliable cellphone-like commodities, or how the push towards EVs seems to be accelerating that trend.
A modern high-end BMW can have over a hundred separate ECUs (microcontrollers). All communicating over multiple CAN and FlexRay networks. The complexity is mind boggling, just so you can have subscription based seat heating and other nonsense.
No technician on Earth will be able to debug this black box spaghetti except the manufacturer. If you try to access/reprogram one of these chips (as you should be able as you OWN the damn thing), the microcontroller has OTP (one time programmable) memory that ensures the device can physically brick itself should you try.
No technician on Earth will be able to debug this black box spaghetti except the manufacturer.
I do not share such faith in the manufacturer that made the black box spaghetti.
I do have faith that some random dude in Pakistan will figure out how to unlock a sensor using a paperclip and a 555 timer and will post it to YouTube.
If the person in the video is wearing flip flops and smoking, tends to be good info.
Bmw is dogshit but even when they had 7 computers they were so amazingly ass backwards they had to have chassis diag specialists for each of their higher end models.
Yes, exactly! We are just going to see more of this as time passes and I hate it. Idk what I can to about it other than buy cars that do less of this. Not that my one purchase every other decade really matters.
Not that my one purchase every other decade really matters.
Meh. I doubt most people buy a new car every 2 years. Nor that most people buy multiple of them. And “it’s just me doing it” is a good thing to leave out. Possibly most people think that, even if perhaps not in this specific case.
Valid. I just lack general faith in the practice of voting with your wallet. My default assumption is that it takes an unreasonable amount of persistence and coordination, and that the majority of people either don’t know or don’t care about whatever issue is being considered.
Well, we could nationalize car production.
You can always get an older car and do a conversion. If you can find one with a bad/no motor you could even save a few bucks.
Wait, is that a normally done thing? As far as conversions go, I’ve only seen someone’s project of combustion-powered Tesla. Combustion to EV sounds interesting.
But anyway, won’t you then have the same issues anyway?
The kind of person in the position to convert a vehicle from one energy source to another is either competent enough to do any future work themselves, in which case they already have the necessary tools to do said work, or has enough money that the potential difficulty in maintaining the vehicle is not a concern.
It seems to me that the future of electric mobillity is more car renting/leasing than car ownership. Servicing will be included in the monthly payment and you won’t have to service it yourself
or like, not driving cars? E-bikes are pretty amazing and modern mopeds are some scifi shit
Yes! Walkng is great too, less electric though
Not just cars. The logical endpoint of capitalism is a rent-only economy. Everything will shift in ownership to the ones with the ability to purchase above the market price. Undercut everybody for infinite gains in the future.
Edit: I should say that i meant unregulated capitalism. I honestly don’t find anything wrong with people being well payed for doing exceptional things. Taking advantage of capital gains is NOT exceptional.
My kid used to watch it over and over between 3-5 years old. Finally asked him why he liked it, his response was " because you like it".
Well? Did you like it?
Of course! Was just nice he was thinking of someone other than himself and chose based on that.
I am in my 40s, Wall-e is probably my favorite movie, but that may speak more towards me getting some sort of validation from my neurodivergence assigning personalities and human-like emotions to inanimate objects.
Windows PC or Linux PC? Cause Windows PC aint gonna run shit with the build quality of the hardware and OS of the average PC.
I can almost guarantee you the oldest running windows PC is older than the oldest running linux PC due to software that can’t be re-compiled and brought to newer hardware/OS. Think hospitals, factories, etc… Granted, this argument does not really work in favor of windows.
I mean yeah probably, someone somewhere has a PC-AT with MS-DOS and Windows 1 dating from the 80’s somewhere, while the first release of Linux was in what? 92? Somebody like LGR or Tech Tangents very likely has some old hardware running period software for history enthusiast reasons.
But let’s play this game: What is the oldest hardware currently in service running a currently supported edition of Windows, versus the oldest hardware currently in service running a currently supported edition of Linux?
Banks are still running Cobol programs written by Jesus on punchcards. But it’s not the same use case, Linux is mostly running on servers without a UI.
written by Jesus on punchcards
I just want to say thank you for that line, it’s beautiful. I’m absolutely going to steal it.
But is it really Window’s fault when a software vendor decides not to support a newer Windows version, or a manager thinks cutting costs by not renewing a support contract is a great idea? I’ve seen plenty of software fail to compile on Linux because of, for example, slightly newer (or older) glibc versions being present. It’s not as if using Linux means software will magically run on every version out there.
That is the problem which containers initially were to tackle. Before I always ran into the issue that two programs need two different versions of a library.
Linux PC of course.
Ayy, recently rewatched that too. Personal headcannon: a better ending would have been a montage of Eva teaching an amnesiac Wall-E all the things he taught her and have him fall in love with those things and her again in the process. Probably more drawn out than “random electric spark magically resets memory” though
she finds a service panel behind which there’s a big button labelled “restore backup”
Eva finds Wall-E’s NAS on Earth and restores a backup.
I don’t quite remember what happened in the movie though.
She literally kisses him and he starts remembering everything
Do you remember the old PC and Mac commercials. Funny how PC looks like Pierre P.
They tried doing the same thing in the UK with a comedy duo, Mitchell (PC) and Webb (Mac). They were best known at the time for a Channel 4 show, Peep Show, where Mitchell played an educated, qualified, no-nonsense, go-getting, straight-talking realist who was a bit awkward and frumpy, while Webb played an entitled, self-aggrandising, directionless, scatterbrained half-wit convinced he deserved greatness… I forget where I was going with this.
Walle took 800 years and still hadn’t finished its task. Eve took 12 hrs
Wall-e was a single unit carrying on the task of thousands (tens, hundreds of thousands? We don’t know if others were still functioning or we’re global). He was doing the task he was built for. EVE’s task was completely different - visit the planet every so often and search for the sustainability of life. She did that as per her programming. Different tasks.
Not to mention WALL-E was the one to show EVE the plant so he helped with that job too
Eve took 12 hrs
Wall-E completed the task for Eve tho
I wonder if apple is outsourcing it’s AI computing power to linux servers
Eve just fucked around blowing up shit. Like everything Apple.
Wall-e tried to clean the world.
You sound like one of my PMs. “Klugerama, your coworker was able to resolve a UI issue in just 3 days, why did it take you over 3 weeks to convert 50k lines of code from C# to Java?”
