• InfiniteGlitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Batman created his powers

    If I remember well, Batman does not have superpowers. He’s a guy who’s rich, trains a lot, is smart and due to being rich is able to get great equipment to use.

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      Iron Man is a better example of a superhero who created powers for himself, but he isn’t one of the three most popular

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        iron man also doesnt have powers, those are his power/battle armor, eventhen he is beaten easily by villians with superpowers.

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      His superpower is being rich enough to be called eccentric instead of just crazy. You know, crazy, like the label used on all the villains he fights.

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        The best Batman stories tend to display that the only difference between Batman and his rogues is that Batman’s insanity doesn’t make him dangerous to the general public.

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      due to being rich is able to get great equipment to use.

      That’s the power: gadgets. And also being a genius detective, but largely the gadgets.

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    I’m pretty sure Superman wasn’t born with them. He got his powers from his flyby of earth’s yellow sun in the escape pod from Krypton.

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      I thought he had powers because he was born on Krypton under a red sun, and all Kryptonians gain superhuman powers when exposed to a yellow sun.

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        But if he had stayed on Krypton, he wouldn’t have any powers, so it took an event to activate it, which isn’t any different than the other scenarios. Batman was born rich, so he already had the potential to be batman, but it took the murder of his parents to set him on his path. Really Spiderman is the odd one out.

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          Spidey’s parents and his uncle who helped raise him are all dead/murdered. All three are orphans, so that all cancels out. :-).

          Peter Parker only became spider-man once his uncle was killed, that set him on the path to use his “great power” with “great responsibility.”

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            Spider-man literally started as a pro wrestler who used his powers and a costume to make money

            He was costumed and super-powered first, but heroic only after his uncle was killed. (By a thief whom Spidey let get away, since the victim was the wrestling promoter who cheated him out of his first earnings.)

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            I strongly suspect Peter would have eventually become a superhero even without the death of his uncle.

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      Seems a bit daft of the Kryptonian folk to stay there even if they didn’t believe their planet was doomed.

      “Move to another planet to be a nearly indestructible God who can fly and shoot lasers and stuff? No thank you. I just got my cabinets arranged how I like them and I am not going through that again.”

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          Fair point. The planet being destroyed might increase the average intelligence level in this region of space.

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      I think it was from Kill Bill, but thrtrs a cool speech about how Superman has to put on the costume to become Clark Kent. While other hero’s have to put on the costume to become the hero.

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        Batman has been shown to consider Bruce as the alter ego. I believe he even once was under wonder woman’s lasso of truth and revealed his true identity as batman.

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    Batman was born rich. It’s the billionaire class that want you to think they are creating wealth and not stealing it.

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      The irony is Wayne had stupid amounts of money and chose to use personal violence to stop some of the criminals in Gotham rather than funding programs that would have lifted people out of poverty and prevented far more crime, or running for office himself and setting up oversight to stop corruption and programs to offer a hand up to people.

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      I get the inborn super-healing, and I get the addition of the adamantine (sp?) skeleton, but what powers did he create on his own?

      Martial arts ability?

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        Popularity is Wolverine’s greatest super power, at least according to Deadpool. It’s why he can never be killed. Well I think he was killed, but death isn’t permanent in comics.

        Fun fact: Wolverine was cut from the X-Men by the executives at Marvel because they thought no would like him. After about a year of mediocre sales, the execs didn’t care what they did with X-Men so the writers only then introduced Wolverine. Then suddenly the X-Men was one of the best selling comics at Marvel.

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          Hah, I’m old enough to remember how that actually went down in the struggling Marvel offices at the time. Early-to-mid 70’s was his actual creation-moment IIRC.

          You should read Mark Evanier’s blog if you’re actually curious about this stuff…

  • Spider-Man is half’n’half. He got super strength and agility as well as his “spider senses” from the spider bite.

    His webshooters, suits, and other tools he made himself. The Raimi films always bugged me that they made his web shooting stuff a mutation from the bite and not showing off his intelligence and engineering skills. Cuz he also didn’t have money like Batman or Ironman.

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      The biological webbing coming from his wrists was stupid. If it was a spider mutation, he should have had spinnerettes growing from his rear end. The handmade web shooters were way more logical.

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        Until a writer noticed that the web shooters mean Peter is a once-in-a-century chemist and should be swimming in cash from selling a few things he cobbled together in his apartment. Now, Peter Parker runs a mega-corp. Part of the reason that Miles Morales was introduced is specifically because Peter was no longer an everyman protagonist.

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        My problem with the handheld ones is that they’re way way too effective. He was good at science but that tech was way way beyond realism. It’s nigh-unbreakable, ultra-accurate and insanely grippy, almost inexhaustible in a single tiny canister. And somehow he can afford to regularly create batches on his limited income. Etc etc.

        I mean, having the biological webbing come out of his hands isn’t a whole lot less realistic than the wall crawling or spidey sense. And he’s got weird powers from radioactive spider bite, who says they have to manifest in any specific way.

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          He runs out regularly in combat, even traveling which lead to plot points and how he handles fights though.

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      I am a lay person when it comes to comics, so feel free to tear me apart here. Could Bruce Banner potentially be all 3? His DNA was able to absorb the gamma radiation (born with it), he then had the radiation thrust upon him, and then he did whatever he did to make himself the smart hulk?

      A bit of a reach, I know.

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            i believe only ancient one did, that she also drew from the dark dimension(dormammus realm) which gave her immortality and other abilities. strange all comes from spellwork, like books and incantations, and recently darkhold magic/chaos, which gave him a permanent boost. like most previous holders.

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        Upvote, for seeming to be a nice person who sticks to that basic premise upon American comics. And for sure, folks like you are needed!

        Over here, I happen to prefer European comics, and actually I’d be curious to hear what you might think about such. Like, are they too weird for the USA, or…?

        https://piefed.social/c/eurographicnovels

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      Wolverine was born with healing factor, trained in his fighting skills and then had his admantium skeleton thrust upon him

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        Yeah, I was thinking that but wasn’t convinced. Similarly Batman was born rich, trained hard and had bereavement thrust upon, which likely created the persona. Perhaps we’re all a bit nature, nurture, and luck.

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      Naruto i guess? He’s a child of a very powerful ninja(born), had a powerful creature sealed inside him at birth(thrust upon), and have to learn how to actually unlease and control that power(create).

      Otherwise i can’t seems to remember anyone that does have the 3.

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      he gained admantium skeleton, claws. but he had regeneration as a mutant so born with. also adamantium was poisoning him, so his regeneration was keeping it in check(weakening his regen abilities)

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    batman has no powers whatsoever. he just a very rich person, much like stark, who bought/develop tech. not really thrust as more of an accident, much like brunce banner.

    closest thing would be apocalypse the super-mutant, he was forced upon to gain celestial enhanced powers. i think juggernaut is another one, as is lady deathstrike? another one is phoenix.

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      He has also trained himself to pretty much the peak of human limits, so there’s that. Which is usually listed in other superheroes’ lists of powers.

      In different incarnations he’s also heavily involved in the design of the various tech, it’s more than just “being rich”. That’s really understating both characters.

      But I would call super suits and super tech as “powers” in the way they’re frequently talked about. Uber-genius intellects maybe.

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        In the original comics Batman used to be mostly a detective. Looking for clues, evidence, then tying up criminals for the cops to find (afaik). I’d love a show like “True Detective” but with Batman. Anyway so his powers would be peak of human limits and super intelligent and gadgets.

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      Batman and Stark both have significant physics bending powers. It’s more obvious with Stark, but both of them have made plenty of things that have bend the laws of physics pretty drastically.

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        That’s the comic’s suspension of disbelief working. In canon they have no powers other than engineering and funding.

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      In the original story Batman has “bat senses” that allow him to hear the conversations of criminals, a bit like The Shadow. It used to be believed by some that bats could sense in the “ether”, sn invisible river in which electromagnetic energy flowed, this was before echo location was proven.

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    Batman saw a bat fly through his window and then made himself everyone else’s problem. Classic rich guy behavior.

    Superman was an “immigrant” from a wealthy family back home and made himself everyone else’s problem by way of his massive built-in upward mobility

    Spider-Man probably did a drug and died falling out a window and every single person he knew was like “we shall also be Spider-Man.”

    Edit: I don’t cite so don’t ask.