Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards?

@rimu@piefed.social

What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?

Mass instance bans

Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).

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Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).

Explain why you think its unfair and how you would like the situation to be remedied.

He has abused the modlog to claim ‘harassment’, which I have never engaged in. I have not even interacted with Rimu in any way for days prior to getting kicked from the PieFed developer Matrix channels.

He has decided to mass ban 20 users because they have spoken out against his erratic and hostile behaviour as of late.

    • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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      I’m out here posting commie shit every day and getting into fights about it. But occasionally I take a peek at MoG and I’ve never seen my name there, it’s always just Cowbee this and Cowbee that. Now I don’t even make the blocklist.

      What am I, chopped liver?

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          They loathe you because they can’t dismiss you without doing a bunch of reading they otherwise wouldnt do

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            I tend to agree. If I were more aggressive, then it’s easy to dismiss me as a troll, but I deliberately choose not to do that.

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          I’m pretty sure any interaction you and I have had was about as luke warm as yesterday’s tea, and I think even that would be more heated than any interaction ive had with rimu. I think I once commented about someones preferred pronouns not being used? Eh, whatever.

          Apparently I’m wayyyy more ban worthy than you.

          Edit: I want a sticker to commemorate this event.

          Edit 2: Oh, and for the record I think it was something like “they prefer x”, and you replied with “whoops, let me correct”. I don’t want to imply it was some sort of negative interaction and give folks the wrong impression.

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          I honestly wonder if they ignore me because I’m meaner. But who knows what goes on in their heads.

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            I suspect it too, I frequently have to revise my comments to tone them down before posting (and even after) because I know confrontation just turns people off of productive discussion, but I think this causes cognitive dissonance in some rather extreme reactionaries. Few people mildly dislike me, it seems either varying degrees of neutrality or positive views, or otherwise extreme hatred. Just what I’ve noticed.

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            Honestly it’s probably the amount of text. A few of the people who got banned are dyed in the wool multi-paragraph to full book of text posters. Cowbee and Staments being the absolute gods of this.

            I bet that list is just a stack ranked list of numbers of words in threads they didn’t like, and Rimu just banned line the top 50.

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              No one has ever accused me of not posting walls of texts before 🤣

              I think you’re right about it being about a specific thread though.

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      Is my name on the list?
      Yes Sir
      Sh…
      Oh, but it actually has a different surname
      Phew

      You see, surnames are important. With them, you get a working fedilink, instead of a broken one.

      (I don’t care about the drama. I just saw users getting caught by this bug.)

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        Iso@lemy.lol is the former admin of lemy.lol. It’s also a bit odd because Piefed.social defederated from lemy.lol over their logo and Iso has told Rimu to go fuck himself a few times over it. The fact that he decided to block him here and now is telling because it proves its a personal hitlist and not coordinated harassment as he wants to claim. Otherwise, why wasn’t he blocked prior? And even then, why block an account now from a defederated instance?

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          That’s really funny. Probably means rimu is maintaining a personal shit-list and decided to just copy-paste it to piefeds banlist.

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            I think this is accurate, and I believe based on the evidence Rimu is sharing it with other instance admins to try to push a universal ban list.

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            I’ve got no other explanation for why he’s banning users that he has already defederated from. The only way he could be coralling that list is if he’s looking at stuff from another instance and attempting to control the narrative for other admins.

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    The only thing I’ve ever said to him was pushing back against his criticism with screenshots of evidence that proved him wrong.

    He is not removing people for a coordinated harassment campaign. He is removing people to silence dissent and exert a stranglehold on his platform and his own ego.

    PTB is, quite literally, not strong enough. He is an active danger to the entire fediverse as a whole. He is dragging down credibility of any instance that runs Piefed and has proven that not only is he a manchild incapable of regulating his own emotions and ego.

    Piefed has become Chernobyl levels of radioactive. You can keep running a Piefed instance but you better expect questions on why you’re helping to further this narcissistic psychopaths control and influence.

    It’s also kind of strange that Iso@lemy.lol is on that list. They’re a former admin of lemy.lol who had beef with Rimu but Rimu defederated from lemy.lol a while ago over their logo. The fact that he’s banning that user in amongst all the others kind of proves that this is a personal hitlist and not harassment. Otherwise, why are you banning a user that you’ve defederated from?

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      As some rando who considered piefed due to the problematic Lemmy devs, I agree. The stuff I’ve read about it has turned me off of it, and I’m sure I’m not the only one.

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        You could always come to Mbin instead. I’m glad the worst controversy we’ve had was kbin’s lead dev’s early reactions and actions towards the Mbin fork. Which is hardly relevant anymore.

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      It’s ironic because he’s so concerned about the Lemmy devs. I know I’ve personally called out nutomic before, and we had a respectful conversation, but ended up disagreeing. Rimu does it shamelessly and without respect and then expects everyone to sing his praises afterwards after he forces his perception on everyone else.

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    Those users are probably going to end up in a banned list hardcoded in the program.

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      Well, he already admitted that guardrails should have been put up on lemmy to prevent memes from taking root. So why not put up guardrails for users he doesn’t like?

      Oh wait.

      He did.

      He made an anti-cm0002 filter.

    • Which is funny because people have said Lemmy’s devs would do the same thing in regards to putting stuff into Lemmy. It’s also stupid because anyone who cares can make a new account with a different username on another server, or on their same server to bypass that.

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        There’s a good chance they’re going to see this post and prepare a second list, all the best!

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          Honestly that’s why I’m replying to this. I feel like it’ll be a badge of honor to get added to Rimu’s hardcoded ban list.

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        I will personally find it funny if that happened, so that I get to pump up my codeberg numbers with pylova and pievolution code to just remove the list

        (Does codeberg even have that sort of activity stuff? I mostly live on my personally hosted repos at this point, I just think it would be funny)

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      Not gonna lie, I’m pretty sure at least 2 of those names have been featured on PTB before.

      This place if rife with powermods.

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    Hi. Admin of lemy.lol here who is also on that list.

    I have made 5 comments in total and have not commented in the matrix channels. I have also made a single comment about Rimu. This.

    Rimu is incapable of handling basic criticism. If an admin is such a threat that a single comment about him constitutes a ‘coordinated harassment campaign’, then Rimu and Piefed.social must be defederated en masse. We at lemy.lol would do so if he didn’t defederate from us over his perception of a frog.

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        Given how ubiquitous Pepe is as a template for emotes in places like Twitch, I argue that Pepe was taken back by the gamers as a mascot.

        Now, because gamers are gamers I also don’t fault anyone having reactive doubts about usage of Pepe. But I don’t think those doubts are license to action without some burden of proof.

        Posting frogs itself means nothing. The content of the frogs means everything, including dogwhistles. He’s not a dogwhistle himself anymore, just with exceptions to that rule, like the specific groyper one.

        He has been granted the title of having reasonable innocent use, but he has not been extended the rank of not having problematic associations.

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        That’s why you’ve got to use Pepe while being vehemently woke, to make it clear bigots aren’t tolerated

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    PTB, he banned me for screenshotting the public group chat.

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    Soooo hes killed piefed with consistently idiotic behaviour. (I’m being kind here)

    Hopefully the fork takes off and saves the project.

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      Hopefully any popular fork unwinds its ActivityPub deviations and works with the greater fediverse community going forward.

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        ActivityPub compatibility has never been a problem with Piefed, and in fact we are collaborating very well in private. Of course Lemmy doesnt yet support all the features that Piefed has, but thats not their fault.

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          Oh. Multiple times I’ve heard that it has unilaterally broken ActityPub rules, but I never investigated exactly how.

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            Not that I know of, but I also haven’t tested Piefed nor followed the development closely.

            Recently there was a case where federation of Piefed Feeds was incompatible with Multi-communities in the Lemmy dev version. It would have taken me a lot of boilerplate code to make these compatible, for little or no benefit. Rimu agreed to change it on the Piefed side instead, much easier.

            A few days ago I read read about some blocking or hiding feature in Piefed that is incompatible with Lemmy. That might be inevitable if Lemmy simply doesn’t support that feature. In the end there will always be some degree of incompatibility on the Fediverse, because every software has very different priorities.

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                While JSON-LD is part of the ActivityPub specification, Lemmy doesnt use it at all (and afaik neither do Mastodon, Pixelfed, Peertube etc). Instead Lemmy uses JSON and Piefed is probably the same. We do provide the JSON-LD definitions which that comment complains about, but they have also often been incomplete.

                Honestly I dont even know which Fediverse software uses JSON-LD. It doesnt seem useful to know “there is something called an Accept activity” when you dont have the UI logic to display them.

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      I was going to make a fork, governed by the users to ensure PTB features weren’t present.

      Is there already a decent fork, to save me time?

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    Rimu’s also banned people who never interact with Piefed.social like myself simply if people like PugJesus make harassment posts about them (which feddit.org and blahaj.zone followed through with too). This is more blatant as it’s even less targeted and includes people I’ve never seen break any rules, like Edie.

    From MeanwhileOnGrad, against me:

    ableism, misgendering

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        Thanks! I try to be more chill, people being at each other’s throats isn’t very productive for learning so I try to balance it out. It does go to show that those opposed to leftists will despise you no matter how you treat them or others if you’re consistent.

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        Nah, I don’t even use blahaj.zone communities so it isn’t too big of a deal. It was a full instance ban. As for Ada, I assume if I got banned, it’s because Blahaj.zone agreed with permabanning me, though they haven’t permabanned others that have done the same as me, just ones PugJesus and Rimu seem to hate in particular.

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          It kinda sucks because I usually use my blahaj account to interact with the larger fediverse which means I don’t see your informative replies…

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            Yep, that’s the biggest downside to being banned, if anyone on Lemmy.blahaj.zone goes to Lemmy.ml they won’t see what I post there (or anywhere). I try not to tell people how to run their instances and whatnot, if they decide their red line is defending the communist interpretation of historical tragedies from liberal historiography then me getting banned is a matter of time anyways.

            It’s just important for those instance-shopping to know where blahaj stands on these subjects, ie against communists and for liberals.

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              That sounds like a win for Blahaj.

              Honestly all you ever do is copy-paste propaganda text and defend states violently suppressing civilians because you try to claim they were secretly all CIA Nazis or defending Russia invading Ukraine because NATO exists so it’s fair that civilians die. You personally are probably one of the worst things about .ml.

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                  Well can you tell them to stop talking shit about Blahaj? I’m sick of always having to censor myself for tankies when they never return the favour.

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                If copy and paste is the only thing required to dismantle your tired red scare bullshit then that’s 100% your fault, get new material

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                I don’t believe this is an honest assessment of me at all.

                For starters, I don’t think it’s necessary for me to hand-craft a unique response to common, low-effort arguments against socialism or socialist states. If I have addressed an argument before, I find where I’ve responded to it before and frequently copy and paste, as I believe quality responses are more effective than unique ones.

                Secondly, on the topic of “propaganda.” In that what I am trying to do is create more communists and communist sympathizers, I definitely fall into the category of propagandist. I focus on direct conversations with individuals, rather than many individuals at a more shallow and easy to grasp level. This doesn’t mean what I say isn’t factual or based in solid logical reasoning, however.

                Third, the idea that I defend “states violently suppressing civilians because you try to claim they were secretly all CIA Nazis or defending Russia invading Ukraine because NATO exists so it’s fair that civilians die.” This is, frankly, horseshit. I’d like to see examples, because I definitely have shown evidence from a myriad of sources for genuine lynchings of Jews and communists by Nazis that the Red Army stopped, and I’ve never tried to say the deaths of civilians is justified because NATO exists. I’ve explained the origins of the Russo-Ukrainain war as it traces back to the 2014 Banderite coup, and the ethnic repressions in the Donbass region kickstarting a civil war, but I’ve never justified the deaths of civilians, much the opposite.

                If I’m “personally probably one of the worst things about .ml,” then I shudder to imagine what you believe to be good.

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                  I’m asking you both now to drop this. Stop shit talking blahaj and engaging in slap-fights. This is not in-scope in this comm.

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                You see, they’re are allowed to shit talk safe spaces, people aren’t allowed to defend themselves from the people who shit talk and invade safe spaces. That’s only fair. Queers can’t stand up for themselves, that’s liberalism.

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    This confirms everything I said about piefed months ago. I even made a piefed account and brought up concerns, only to be told the “anti-tankie” controls were for everyone’s own good.

    Sucks to suck.

  • "these people don’t hide that they don’t like me and since I have a tiny iota of power I’m gonna ban them! Grr I’m angy! >:[ see it has an actual reason, I’m not whining! "

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      Like everyone during their evangelical/liberal phase, he has a massive ego and believes he must be the most morally correct and ethical person and everyone that disagrees with him on absolutely anything must know that he is correct and is just trying to bring him and others back down to the tar pits because they can’t stand seeing such a shining beacon of light and morality.

      This is always exacerbated by people specifically on crusades, like someone that hatefucked an entire fucking piece of software into existence because he hated the idea people were more progressive than him because they were more well-read and informed than he was capable of making himself, and certainly more than he was himself when he formed his political opinions.

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        Having gone through something very similar to this myself, ‘round about 15 years ago -> Fuckin’ yyyyup.

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        Since this is the fediverse, and we are up against some crazy shit, as far as this picture goes, I say “Hail Hydra.”

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          Yeah, but do we want to be read as harassers?
          I follow the disengagement rule as soon as I am requested to. Doesn’t “ML” instances do raids/agit spams?

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            iirc hexbear has had a ‘disengage’ rule since before even dbzer0

            Doesn’t “ML” instances do raids/agit spams?

            not as far as i’m aware; i moderate on !slop@hexbear.net, which is for all reactionary content and even has a rule against going after federated instance mods/admins. lemmy content is a small fraction of the content posted there and when it is posted, half the time there’s going to be someone complaining in the comment section about how they don’t care about other instances at all classic

            obviously cross-posting something will get people who want to comment engaged, but people cross-post things on the fediverse all the time, it’s kind of the point of a platform like this

            also the meme image i posted was just a joke, people are always throwing around accusations about other posters being alts and yeah they’re all alts, my alts! ahaha

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              1. Thank you for answering.
              2. I am aware you were joking. But be aware how it reads to folks traumatized by harassment. Within the context of this thread, I immediately comprehended it was ragebait. But others not as literate and nuanced, may read this as “I‘ll make as many alts as I want until Rimu relents to our demands!”
              3. Wild to read someone read/experienced うみねこのなく頃に.
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                Wild to read someone read/experienced うみねこのなく頃に.

                beatrice is iconic, i definitely relate to her a bit doggirl-sweat

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                  I only know her, because my wife asks me to play 黄金夢想曲†CROSS, much to my 😵‍💫

          • If Rimu was banning people over personally targeting him that would be a valid concern. He isn’t. Making new accounts to spread counter-programming to his userbase is not harassing him. It’s only harassment if one makes accounts specifically to contact him.

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          I did, I even read it again when I saw the meme! I didn’t rub it in anyone’s face so I don’t think I’m a socialist tho.

          Did the 3rd read make you communist or is it when you start smugly beating people over the head with you reading list? I prefer sci-fi fantasy.

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            i mean you did kind ask for it this time.

            i was an anarchist long before i read settlers, it didn’t really change my politics, just heightened my distaste for the united states

            sci fi and fantasy is fine, i also like trashy stuff on ao3 and visual novels

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    my shitposting game has been weak lately. disappointed in myself for not making it into the list.