Interesting that Americans always argue that they need their guns in case the government goes rouge. So many comments say that they will get shot, because they absolutely look like kidnappers, yet nothing happens. Looks like you keep those guns around just for a higher suicide rate and school shootings.
No badges, no uniforms, driving unmarked vehicles and wearing masks? Those are obviously kidnappers, Your Honor.
“That’s why my client acted reasonably and dare I say heroically, when they saw these masked men dragging the witness into an unmarked vehicle, drew their legally carried sidearm, and engaged these individuals until they were no longer a threat.”
Why hasn’t this happened yet?!
This country should never be safe for predators who want to throw people into vans.
Because migrants are generally peaceful, non-violent people who just want to work hard and improve their lives.
Good thing that ain’t me.i don’t want to improve my life at all!
were obviously kidnappers, your honor, is what my client meant to say.
Friendly reminder that it should be 100% illegal for law enforcement to wear masks and hide their identity.
We pay their salaries and they have ZERO accountability.
These are domestic terrorists.
Not even remotely hyperbolic here, I 100% would assume they’re randos gang members or doing criminality attempting to kidnap then murder me, and I’d fight back accordingly. Not even a badge on a neck chain or belt clip jfc covered head to toe
Just the same as if a mugging becomes “get into the van” no you fucking shouldn’t because their goals are now no longer your property, but now your life
Never let the assailant take you to the secondary location.
Urban self defense classes have been teaching this since the 1970s, at least.
The secondary location these days is in El Salvador.
Has anyone actually confirmed that those guys are actually ICE? Because they look like I could pretend to be ICE and get away with it.
Yea these guys don’t look like law enforcement. They gonna get shot if its my turn cause these look like bad guys just kidnapping fools.
They look like terrorists.
Well they are wearing masks and striking fear on a civilian population for a political agenda, so I think your terminology is textbook.
Nah, they haven’t shot any rich people yet.
Rich people can also be/employ terrorists.
they are terrorists
Fox News would probably agree with you if they weren’t white
It’s 2025. America. You see these men on the street.
If you assume they are going to rob a bank dial 911.
If you assume they are going to lynch someone dial 911.
If you assume they are going to kidnap someone dial 911.
If you assume they are law enforcement then get your eyes checked. They aren’t wearing any identifying uniform, no insignia, no badges.
If you assume they are impersonating law enforcement then dial 911 and get your eyes checked.
Call swat on them.
"Hello police? There are armed masked men waiting next to a black unmarked van eyeballing women as they walk by. I’m afraid when I leave they are going to try to abduct someone.
No they aren’t law enforcement"
If they don’t get guns pointed at them then you will make 4 thugs waste most of their day and piss them off.
Looks like four domestic terrorists.
That’s because they are.
These guys look like they’re about to rob a bank.
Nah, I imagine bank robbers as classy. These thugs look like the “gang members” they’re so desperately scared of. They look like they’re hiding weapons in their pockets to cause public terror. They look like they’re about to jump me for being in their territory and mug me of all my belongings. They make me feel like I should avoid walking down whatever street they’re holding up.
These are straight up criminals, looking like they’re about to commit crime.
Those masks and them carrying weapons is an automatic felony in my jurisdiction and any shop owner pleading stand your ground would be praised by the community. They don’t like immigrants here, but they hate the federal government even more.
You seem to be thinking of 1930s bank robbers like John Dillinger. I was thinking more along the lines of 1990s bank robbers, like the North Hollywood Shootout guys.
Bank robbers should strive to be like the payday 2 gang
Professionals have standards /s
Its sad really. They think this makes them good Americans, and probably satisfies their personal insecurities. You can tell by their stance they feel pretty powerful, but they look like clowns, and hiding their face makes it pretty empty, like kids playing sheriff.
How does anyone know they’re ICE? what if six guys in masks showed up and threw these guys in an unmarked van and says THEY’RE ICE?
You’re right. And if you feel threatened, you could just shoot them. “Had no idea they were cops. They hid their faces like gang members.”
Someone put “MS 13” in power point text boxes on their shirts already.
I’m sure a quality temp tattoo will have a decent effect.
If they were just bounty hunters, with no ID or uniforms, and somebody stopped them, I doubt any judge would allow a case to go forward. There is no law that says citizens have to cooperate with violent, unidentified strangers.
They aren’t ICE. There’s not enough ICE agents for the job. At BEST, they are bounty hunters deputized by ICE and given $1k for each brown person they bring in.
Worth a shot.
Or four.
Rule #2. Double tap.
Just judging by the cover, my guess is that this album sucks.
They look like random Grand Theft Auto enemies that you wipe out by the dozen.
If these people approached me I would shoot.
