Them deal was they fictional.
Remember the prime directive.
What do you mean by deal?
One interesting thing I came across a while ago was that Jesus healing people was not very sensational at the time, as spiritual healers were not that rare. What blew people’s minds about the healing was that he was doing it for free.
They just seem weird. Walk on water, not really that impressive. We fly through the sky these days I’m sure that might blow away some people who lived in jesus times. Heal the sick, that’s like a job you get and I’m sure we pulled many many people back from the brink in our age. Turned water to wine? Feed people? If he was god he had to know these miracles would be kinda lame sauce to people in a few thousand years. Why not like swim in a volcano or lasso the moon?
Walk on water,
Turned water to wine
Metaphors
Feed people
Inspiring compassion
Yeah but like when hulk smashed loki around in the first avengers movies that was a much cooler metaphor. When Tony Stark paid everyone’s college that was also inspiring compassion.
Do better lord of all the universe.
How the actual fuck is walking on water not impressive? I’m not a Christian, I don’t necessarily believe it happened, but yeah, that would probably blow some people’s minds.
I mean that’s pretty cool, but it’s a lizard, not a man. You’re saying if you saw a human walk on water you wouldn’t be impressed?
It would be novel i guess
There are no first-hand accounts of Jesus’ existence. The earliest gospels weren’t written until around 40 years after his supposed death, and they were anonymous writings that were only attributed to the apostles.
The Jesus narrative is just mythology.
So they were just picked at random?
You can make fun of religion nowadays, sure, very original, or ignore the question and talk about historical accuracy, alright. But if you want an answer what is compelling and mythical about these stories, try not to take them literal. Just like fairytales, they have something psychological about them. E.g. when Jesus made the blind see, this is about depression and how it is cured. Try to cast a friendly eye on the whole topic.
What’s it about when he curses that fig tree cuz I heard some stuff about the non-literal symbolism.
The fig tree is symbolic of the apple tree in the garden of Eden. Jesus cursing the tree to not bear fruit shows how he has come to stop original sin.
And if you buy that bullshit I just made up, you’ll really enjoy church.
Yes, yes. Very clever. Not contributing but don’t you look smart.
My contribution is just as valid, unless you’re looking to hear from people who read the original Aramaic.
Genuinely, that’s not how literary criticism works.
Nah, Jesus ate a bunch of figs, shit his brains out, then used his god powers to curse the fig tree for making him shit his brains out.
It was a typo, he actually cursed gifs because he was sick of all the memes.
It‘s a tree that bears no fruit. Well-looking but not nourishing. It‘s traditioned literature for a reason. But reject the meaning and consume whatever you like, everyone
I’m going to claim brain fart. I’m horrified to find I had thought that it was about, like, modern Israel. Dumb.
OTOH, it sounds like you are suggesting taking interpretations like that; reading things into the text and adopting the symbols for our own purposes. Blindness wasn’t a metaphor for depression. You have to insert that as a modern reader. The text doesn’t fully support it and you have to creatively interpret at times. I don’t think that’s very satisfying.
You mean depression is not just a modern word but a modern concept (it did not exist before)?
When the original authors of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John wrote their words in the original Greek, they were not imagining blindness to be a metaphor for clinical depression. Or even for feeling sad, if that is what you mean. While many people understand these passages as referring to literal blindness, blindness is often used as a metaphor in the Bible, for example for ignorance, pride, deception, and unbelief. You can attempt to take it as a metaphor for the modern concept of depression (which of course they did not even possess) but to do so, you are clearly reading into the text. And it’s not clear how the message of Jesus is meant to cure your depression, the way it can presumably cure you of spiritual ignorance, unbelief, etc.
I’m trying to understand if you are advocating reading into the text intentionally, but it’s not even clear if you’re aware and accept you’re doing that at all.
He was literally hangry. Immediately after he curses the out-of-season tree, he goes into the temple and has his famous hissy fit, overturning tables and shit. It’s basically the ultimate Snickers commercial. Read for yourself:
12 And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry:
13 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet.
14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.
15 And they come to Jerusalem: and Jesus went into the temple, and began to cast out them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves;
Figs are sweet, and in the old testament were a symbol for wisdom, especially wisdom from your teacher.
Jesus was condemning the corrupt religious mafia that was in cahoots with the Romans and Herod, and not doing its job in teaching and being a blessing to the people.
There is no remotely reliable evidence that Jesus Christ ever existed.
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Funny how some people downvote this, but without providing any reliable evidence.Ok but like if I asked why did Gandolf stop to fight the Balrog you’d have no issue answering.
He’s a fictional character.
Jesus absolutely existed, even Atheist or anti-Christian historians don’t debate that he was a real person.
Jesus was a common name un that time. He was made up.
No, he wasn’t. The Romans executed a Hebrew cult leader for treason/rebellion and it was a big enough deal that Tactitus commented on his followers still being pissy about it decades later.
His deeds were made up.
All fictional characters can do miracles?
