I meant they block so much but actually fully allow everything by allowing vpn without any punishment. Seems like a huge waste of money to maintain a firewall that they no longer want to enforce.
Have you tried engaging in a good-faith discussion instead of whatever half-witted rage-bait you attempted the first time?
Last week highly-upvoted comment on reddit claimed that environmentalism is nothing more than russian-bot fueled fad.
Comments are wild here
Normally when people refer to “.ml” they mean the dev instance, lemmy.ml, not lemmigrad.ml.
I’m not commenting on the substance of your post, just pointing out the mismatch.
Grad is definitely worse than ml, but enough people on ml are tankies (including the devs) that it’s easy to group both together.
They are both pretty extreme.
leftist extremism is good
yeah right
both cults, one worse than the other?
lemmy.ml is just lemmygrad.ml wearing a mask - badly.
Cry more, bigot. I see the comments you’ve had removed by mods.
Holy shit can you keep this dogshit on meanwhileongrad?? Like we get it there are crazy soviets on the internet, get over it you don’t need to turn every server into meanwhile
You went into a community which defines itself as Tankies, compared them to Fascists, and now you come here whining about it?
Not necessarily the best example in this post, but in general, I find I get downvoted a lot when I make a good faith comment in .ml posts where I think I’m agreeing and am trying to understand the topic further. Getting 20 downvotes kind of kills my motivation to engage any further, though, so I usually just delete my comment , shrug, and move on. I’ve gotten to the point where I try to avoid wasting my time and energy commenting on .ml posts in the first place.
Maybe it’s just a different perspective on what a downvote means? To me, I’m generous with upvotes and withholding an upvote means I don’t find it interesting or disagree. I use downvotes sparingly for spam, trolling, comments made in bad faith, etc.
A downvote in my mind roughly translates to “fuck off”, so if a group gangs up and tells everyone with a slightly different worldview to fuck off, then they eventually will and said group will be all by themselves in their own echo chamber. If that’s the goal, then fair enough.
You not posting this in context makes you super untrustworthy in my book.
It’s not hard to suss out the context: https://leminal.space/modlog?userId=17385373
Dictatorship is by nature untrustworthy, so which one do you pick: trustworthiness or dictatorship?
By “trustworthiness” do you mean continuing to try to vote our way into policy which benefits the American people? Because that hasn’t worked in 40+ years.
Yeah I’ll take a “dictatorship” like China if it means we get socialized Healthcare, 25,000 miles of high speed rail, affordable housing and nationalization of corporations who have received billions if not trillions in subsidies. American “democracy” certainly hasn’t delivered on any of that.
Pretty sure there isn’t socialized healthcare.
Apropos affordable housing, how is the real estate bubble going? Don’t a lot of people pay for mortgages on apartments that have never been built?
Yeah I’ll take a “dictatorship” like China if it means we get socialized Healthcare, 25,000 miles of high speed rail, affordable housing and nationalization of corporations who have received billions if not trillions in subsidies. American “democracy” certainly hasn’t delivered on any of that.
Ask the Uyghurs how that’s working out for them. Anyone who thinks a fascist dictatorship doesn’t eat whoever they want is lying to themselves. If you’re not a party man (and even if you are that isn’t a bulletproof vest) you’re not going to have a life worth living.
I bet nazi germans were cool with living in the reich, too. Just look at all those jewish companies they were given! Who wouldn’t want that. /s
Then move to China, because the chances of a dictatorship running your way are next to zero. Dictatorship means no accountability, so once it’s set up, they do as they please no matter what you say.
Then move to China
If I spoke mandarin fluently and had a solid support network of friends and family i would. 🤷♂️
Dictatorship means no accountability, so once it’s set up, they do as they please no matter what you say.
Show me all this accountability here in the United States. A known pedophile is in office and the previous guy in office spent four years giving a huge number of his voters the finger.
If it was a total dictatorship, he’d be there forever. Accountability is the elections. You have hope.
Accountability is the elections.
Then who are prisons made for?
Tell you what, I’ll wait here until you find a question you actually can’t answer yourself.
A rotating cast of “elected” spokesmen for the ruling billionaires doesn’t result in accountability for anyone
You seem to like when the government heavily censors domestic media, the internet, and academic discourse, and actively suppresses political dissent, protests, or criticism of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). Movement within China is regulated. The justice system in China has a 99% conviction rate…for whichever side supports the side of the state. Mass surveillance with no legal recourse. You wouldn’t even know if you had it good or not. Unless you are fine not knowing I suppose.
You’re responding to my comment where I said.
Show me all this accountability here in the United States.
You didn’t show me where all this accountability is. Was that an oversight on your part or are you acknowledging there isn’t any?
Can you openly criticize the Chinese party in control? Can you protest without violent retribution?
You can do these things in the usa. Accountability.
China won’t let the full intent through. The US does. Accountability.
And yet they have fewer people in prison than the US with four times the population. All these horrible things about China and yet they incarcerate people at a quarter of the rate that the US does. So if China is a fascist police state what do you call a country that imprisons people at four times the rate of China?
Also a fascist police state
No one said the US is doing anything perfectly. What about the incarceration rate in the Netherlands? Individual freedom is difficult and comes at a cost. Chinese citizend simply do not have all the freedoms others in the west have. They are not allowed to demand it wether they want it or not.
The west also heavily censors domestic media, the internet, academic discourse, and actively suppresses political dissent and protests, etc. The critical difference is that the west does this to protect capitalists against the working classes, while China does this to suppress capitalists and protect the socialist system. The class that controls the state uses it to oppress the others.
Can you openly criticize the Chinese party in control? Can you protest without violent retribution?
I’m in China right now, its weird how the government does more for the people than most western democracies if they’re totally unaccountable. Is it possible you don’t have any idea wtf you’re talking about?
Here’s a place where you can go 250 miles in an hour and a half for 30 bucks. No idea who this is for if not the people.
You actually think there’s no accountability in China? My guy, they hold their politicians to a much higher bar then we do.
From the recent Perceptions of Democracy survey:
China is one of the more comprehensively democratic countries on the list, with some of the fewest glaring weaknesses.
cool… cool…
This data is public, and was gathered by western organizations. You don’t have to make stuff up.
(No idea what they’re trying to say tbh. Is that an edited image or… are they calling you out? Seriously unclear)
PODS is an opinion poll. The way you present it implies that it speaks in any way to the actual systems of government of the country in question, when that’s just straight not what it’s about:
[…] At the same time, more respondents said their country was moving in the wrong direction. The report finds that pessimism is especially pronounced in democracies. France, Germany, Lebanon, Puerto Rico and Nigeria were among the countries where responses on national direction were most negative. China recorded the most positive responses, followed by El Salvador, Kuwait, Algeria and Belarus.
What the infographic you’ve posted actually shows is that Chinese citizens are among the most satisfied with their government, which is for sure something, but is decidedly not the same thing as:
China is one of the more comprehensively democratic countries on the list, with some of the fewest glaring weaknesses.
Thanks for the link, my point was that posting random pictures without context/methodology/sources is not very helpful.
So the questionnaire asks people how positive/negative they perceive the categories in their own country, I’m not really sure that methodology works very well for oppressive countries.
Russia… Democratic… LMFAO xDDD
Thanks for sharing!
Xi is a de facto dictator. Sham elections and all
Xi is not directly elected
Xi is not elected*
He definitely is elected, just not directly. The Chinese President is elected by The National People’s Congress. The Presidium, which is the body that presides over the NPC when the full body Is not in session, nominates one or more candidates, and then the whole NPC deliberates and votes
Anything’s possible when you make shit up
You think Linus Torvalds is untrustworthy?
You clearly don’t understand dictatorship.
You’re just missing context.
Impress me: create a context where you want your own rights taken away. 3, 2, 1, Go!: ___________________________.
Linus Torvalds is a BDFL. dictator can have many meanings: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/dictator
Not all different meanings have to do with ‘me having my rights taken away’
Dictator means you get dictated without a say. You become a puppet. Move to North Korea.
I could just as easily say “president is untrustworthy by nature” or “king”, “prime minister”, “dictator”, “state”, “soldier”, “police”, ”judge” etc. Dictatorship doesn’t automatically equal “authoritarian tankie evil communism everyone starves”
Dictatorship by definition means the person or party that dictates. A judge is not authoritarian for providing someone a fair trial regardless of how harsh or fair they are, but they are still dictating a system or an action. So when you hear “dictatorship of the proletariat”, it literally means you and everyone else controls the law. It doesn’t mean you get to decide everything it means that democracy actually involves every single person that participates instead of being “dictated” by money.
Every country expresses authority in some way, wether it’s USA something like Bay of Pigs, UK with their actions in India and Africa, USSR defeating Nazi armies and liberating concentration camps sometimes WITH the us and British. Technically Warsaw ghetto uprising was “authoritarian” and it was a good thing that they expressed authority on the Nazi regime.
Just trying to provide some clarity, a lot of people in the US truly have no idea how evil our government is and what they do overseas to help maintain your lifestyle, and it barely does a good job of maintaining our lifestyle. If anything socialist policies are always provably better at building society, and even the bare minimum in the US are people like Mamdani or Walz that prove even if you enact quasi-leftist policies like healthcare you’re an evil communist who likes dictatorship. You’re falling for it but you don’t have to, if you believe in people like AOC and other “progressive” dems like Ilhan Omar in theory you should be unlearning these things you’ve been taught by the right wing American media.
A bullshit false equivalence that only serves to amplify alt-right messaging? Yeah, I’d downvote that garbage, too.
That’s lemmygrad (THE tankie instance, with Hexbear), not lemmy.ml (the dev’s instance). Please do not conflate them together. And I say this as a dbzero user.
this has got to be one of the dumbest posts I’ve seen here, who the fuck gives a shit
Me: googles tankie
Serves you right for having a reasonable opinion.
