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FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to pics@lemmy.world · 11 days ago

A photo taken of A black African American waving a "FUCK ICE" Flag

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A photo taken of A black African American waving a "FUCK ICE" Flag

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FoxtrotDeltaTango@sh.itjust.works to pics@lemmy.world · 11 days ago
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  • insufferableninja@sh.itjust.works
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    11 days ago

    A black African American

    • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
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      … I guess as opposed to the Elon kind of African American?

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        Afrikaner American?

        • a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
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          Afrikkkaner American?

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            Lmao, that’s great

      • Zachariah@lemmy.world
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        … or perhaps like Egyptian immigrants

        … or black English immigrants

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      I mean, elmo is technically (South) African American and white as snow

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      Covering all the bases 😀

  • tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I’m gonna start bringing a portable clothes iron around to get out the creases from activist flags, it’s not a huge deal but it just always irks me a little. Their image would be even more impressive with a nice creaseless flag.

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      The cheap, thin nylon is incredibly easy to melt. I buy a new, thick Pride flag every June for my house as the old one is tattered and faded by then. Usually run it through the steam dryer 2-3 times and then hang it out on a nice hot day, and the wrinkles relax. An iron is easy to overdo it with as I learned with a cheap Trans Pride flag one year.

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        there must be some sort of temperature setting on most irons that can handle delicates.
        but yeh the fold wrinkles do stand out.
        though not more than the half assed gear the gestapo is wearing.

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    A black African American, as opposed to white African American

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      • deltaspawn0040@lemmy.zip
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        That’s technically true but I think if you called him African American he’d go apeshit

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          I can’t imagine a conversation where he wouldn’t sound apeshit.

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          YES!

          Let’s all refer to him as an African immigrant every time he’s mentioned, cause all immigrants are bad right? What’s good for the goose…

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            How about we just not refer to him at all?

            This would hurt him the most.

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          I’ve known South Africans that were white and definitely referred to themselves as white African American.

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            You have a point but like… African American also means something different rather than the generic formula of (former country) (current country)

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      Elon

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        Sorry someone beat you to it

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          Ha. Probably within a few seconds.

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            Yep lmao

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      I’ll never forget when a American tourist told my friend that he’s glad to meet another African American, and my friend said: mate, i’m swiss

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      Have you ever seen an algerian

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        Are they a specific ethnicity in the United States defined generally by ancestral chattel slavery, because that’s the primary use of the term

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          An algerian. From the country. Algeria.

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            That’s in northern Africa.

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              And they white as hell. So the distinction of black african american isn’t too weird.

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                You do have a point. I also have a point but yours is enough of a point that arguing more is gonna feel silly.

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                  So… Do I win?

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    “Evilness”?

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      Whether or not the grammar is technically correct he makes a good point.

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      Yeah I thought it was just “evil”.

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      That word struck me too, but it’s in the dictionary and apparently it’s from Old English “yfelnes”.

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      It’s on Merriam webster site as a word, what’s your question?

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        It sounds weird and I don’t get why “Evil” wouldn’t be a better fit. But then, English is my second language, so maybe you could enlighten me?

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    A black African-American person of colour, no less!

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    I just wanna know what company is making all these flags…

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      The same ones that sell the “back the blue” flags.

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        I saw a flag seller in 2020 with a pole flying Trump, Biden, Jolly Roger, USSR, Bass Pro Shop, Weimar Germany, My Little Pony, ACAB, they are the true centrists of our time.

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          Can’t really blame the guy. Being a flag seller was his lifelong dream and nobody buys flags like ideologies.

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    Props to him, but the text on the shirt is a little forced.

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      “evil” would had sufficed.

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        I thought exactly that. Opened the post, upvoted this thread.

        However couldn’t not Google it, and it may be on purpose.

        evilness

        noun

        evil·​ness

        : the quality of being evil : badness

        https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evilness

        While it does sound better with just “evil”, I wonder if they wished to exactly convey that what is being created is the quality of being evil in some people. All in all, that goes under the umbrella of evil, sure. But if we replace “evilness” with “badness”, it no longer sounds worse than the alternative, just “inequality creates bad”. Ofc you can’t compare directly like that, I’m just trying to make the point that black civil activist haven’t historically been that bad at language use, so perhaps we’re just feeling the more colloquial version but that this may be prescriptively better, idk.

        I’m no languinolologist.

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          Evilitude?

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            That’s more of a neologism, whereas “evilness” veers more toward the archaic.

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          Badness sounds even worser

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            Yeah, but not worse than just “bad”, whereas “evilness” sounds worse compared to just “evil.”

            My point is that it might not the most colloquial of English use, but MLK Jr didn’t exactly speak vernacular either.

            So just because something sounds a tad off doesn’t necessarily mean it’s wrong. And in a lot of cases it’s the opposite, because languages just keep evolving.

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    FDT

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    Love the pearl clutching from the “let’s go Brandon” crowd.

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    Gayau!

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    if it makes him happy!

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    African American? Did they or their parents recently immigrate from Africa? Are they invested in African politics? Do they at least adopt some form of African cultural identity? Otherwise, they are just Americans.

    Elon Musk is more of an African American than people judged by the color of their skin given how much he has tried to push his own agendas regarding South Africa onto this administration.

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      you know what “African-American” means, stop being obtuse, you just sound ridiculous

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        We all know what people mean by it; they mean “black” but are scared to say it for whatever reason.

        I think criticism of the term “African-American” is valid. Most black people in America today have never been to Africa.

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          oh absolutely, i’ve seen enough criticism of that term from Black people (americans or not) to know not to use it.

          still, pretending to not know what it means just to push a half-baked message about racial colorblindness is… why. why would you do this. the elon musk shit on top of it, why

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            Just pretending to be an obtuse moron instead of taking a comment as the criticism it is shows your shit riling instincts at work, not the validity of my criticism. Also, learn some proper capitalization, it makes your comment look like it sounds.

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        My beef is with Americans saying “I am an X American” when what they really mean is “I try to LARP as X at times in whatever my American bubble says they do”. But specially with African American. It’s black. Black. Black. Say it with me. Black. No negative connotation (except people’s own insecurities), just a simple oversimplified label like any other of its sort.

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      Elon Musk is more of an African American than people judged by the color of their skin

      If Musk was truly a first generation African American, he’d have been deported already.

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        He has the White-Pass

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    lemmy when someone makes a performative display of resistance online: 😄😁👍

    lemmy when someone makes a display of resistance IRL (the person is Black): 😡😒👎🏻

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      ?

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        look at the comments under this post, they’re full of animosity and snark towards that person

        compare them to any post negative of ICE on this platform and you won’t see that same energy

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          I see only one directed towards that person, sort of, and it’s heavily downvoted.

          70% are complaining about the title.

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