The Motion Picture was especially bad because that was freakin Sector 001. How did Starfleet allow Earth to have only one appropriate ready to deploy ship in the neighborhood?
I think it would have made more sense for Starfleet to insist that Kirk command the mission to engage the intruder, and then Kirk demanded that he take the Enterprise (ready or not) or else he wouldn’t go. It would fit into his apparent obsession with recreating and reliving the glory days of the original five year mission.
Happens AGAIN in Generations. The Enterprise B is taking an inaugural cruise out to Pluto and back, “A quick run around the block,” and dialog indicates they weren’t even going to do that under warp drive. So they get the call that they’re the only ship in range, while well inside the Sol system.
In Star Trek V, we get the exchange “Sir with all due respect, the Enterprise is a disaster, are there other ships in range?” “Other ships, yes. But no experienced captains. We need Jim Kirk.”
You know, the nuts and bolts of Generations just don’t hold up to scrutiny, the sci fi mumbo jumbo about how the ribbon/nexus works is not well crafted and does not hold up to Trekkie “umm why didn’t he just fly a shuttle into the Nexus”-ing.
But tear the skin off it with a gardening trowel and you’ll find a kickass theme: Heroes cannot tolerate heaven.
Both Kirk and Picard enter the Nexus with regrets, Picard over the death of his brother and having never raised a family of his own, Kirk in choosing his career over the woman he loves. Both find themselves in an environment that offers this reality directly to them in 4k HDR, but they can’t accept it, and instead choose to re-enter reality to make a difference. Because heaven ain’t no place for no heroes to call home.
Though, backing up a little bit, it does boil down to two men who have chosen duty over family over and over again throughout their careers choosing duty over family again, except this time the “family” choice is presented to them a bit more vividly than usual.
How did Starfleet allow Earth to have only one appropriate ready to deploy ship in the neighborhood?
Around that time Starfleet was likely overhauling most of their ships or decommissioning older ones to be replaced. There may have been dozens of ships in the system, and Utopia Planetia or San Francisco Shipyards but they were in worse shape than the refit Enterprise. And even if there were others they likely wanted a Frontline ship with one of the most revered officers onboard than, say some rando under equipped Oberth with a B-team science crew of 70, or an outdated TOS-style last in line for refit.
The Motion Picture was especially bad because that was freakin Sector 001. How did Starfleet allow Earth to have only one appropriate ready to deploy ship in the neighborhood?
I think it would have made more sense for Starfleet to insist that Kirk command the mission to engage the intruder, and then Kirk demanded that he take the Enterprise (ready or not) or else he wouldn’t go. It would fit into his apparent obsession with recreating and reliving the glory days of the original five year mission.
They were less concerned about story in TMP and more about showing 5-minute clips of their models moving through space.
They were some good 5 minute clips though…
But then there’s the creditless overture with a starry backdrop for 2-1/2 minutes before the titles. An odd choice.
That was not uncommon for big expensive movies back then. It was the franchise attempting to appear legitimate and grown up in its first entry into theaters. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_with_overtures
Happens AGAIN in Generations. The Enterprise B is taking an inaugural cruise out to Pluto and back, “A quick run around the block,” and dialog indicates they weren’t even going to do that under warp drive. So they get the call that they’re the only ship in range, while well inside the Sol system.
In Star Trek V, we get the exchange “Sir with all due respect, the Enterprise is a disaster, are there other ships in range?” “Other ships, yes. But no experienced captains. We need Jim Kirk.”
Proving conclusively that the one with the whales is the best one.
I love IV. It’s less a Star Trek movie and more of a fish-out-water comedy featuring our favourite crew
The one where USS Saratoga was the only ship in the quadrant and they got dick shit done.
Let’s not forget that the energy ribbon swings by very close to Earth every 37 years or something like that, yet it seems to be a complete surprise.
Also the two ships were transporting El Aurian refugees, which opens a whole new set of questions. Refugees…from the Borg?!
I still like the movie though.
You know, the nuts and bolts of Generations just don’t hold up to scrutiny, the sci fi mumbo jumbo about how the ribbon/nexus works is not well crafted and does not hold up to Trekkie “umm why didn’t he just fly a shuttle into the Nexus”-ing.
But tear the skin off it with a gardening trowel and you’ll find a kickass theme: Heroes cannot tolerate heaven.
Both Kirk and Picard enter the Nexus with regrets, Picard over the death of his brother and having never raised a family of his own, Kirk in choosing his career over the woman he loves. Both find themselves in an environment that offers this reality directly to them in 4k HDR, but they can’t accept it, and instead choose to re-enter reality to make a difference. Because heaven ain’t no place for no heroes to call home.
Though, backing up a little bit, it does boil down to two men who have chosen duty over family over and over again throughout their careers choosing duty over family again, except this time the “family” choice is presented to them a bit more vividly than usual.
Q is afraid of El Aurians, Guinan in particular. If I were Borg, I would leave the job undone and flee, too.
Yeah, but did no one ask, “So, uh, who you running from?” Why would the El Aurians not tell them?
(Of course, the El Aurians may have been fleeing something else.)
Maybe they were telling everybody about Borg and no one would believe them.
Around that time Starfleet was likely overhauling most of their ships or decommissioning older ones to be replaced. There may have been dozens of ships in the system, and Utopia Planetia or San Francisco Shipyards but they were in worse shape than the refit Enterprise. And even if there were others they likely wanted a Frontline ship with one of the most revered officers onboard than, say some rando under equipped Oberth with a B-team science crew of 70, or an outdated TOS-style last in line for refit.