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      Right? I comsider myself fairly far-left, but Putin and Xi are oligarchs abusing their respective positions of power to enrich themselves at the expense of their countrymen and the world at large. You can oppose those things and still think government should take care of its people.

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        Aww shit! The mods don’t think so. You must conform to the will of the oligarchies or be erased from history. (Or just pictures. They also like to delete people from official pictures.)

        But if anyone missed it:

        I SAID THAT MANY PEOPLE DON’T LIKE AUTHORITARIAN DICTATORSHIPS!

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          Good points, and I agree with you. I only mentioned those two because the topic was Russia and China.

          The wider point stands, that oligarchs in every political and economic system of government are generally more concerned with their own power and welfare. Political leaders and power brokers will claim to have some ideological basis for their crimes, but there is always self-interest at the core of every exploitation. In that narrow-scope comparison, they are the same, but it manifests differently based on the available social and political structures in their respective countries.

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      Based af country. Defeated the USA and has kept its freedom from the empire even after brutal sanctions, same as Cuba

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    I mean the joke is for the people who are getting mad and adding the downvotes that you’re focused on other countries that are the specific targets of US propaganda and not that Russia or China are paragons of awesome. All nations are flawed but clearly diverting every conversation by leftists mostly in the US to China and Russia is a propaganda tactic by US astroturfing. In every way the US is worse than every other nation on earth.

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    Definitely not how I’d want my commune to be structured, but to each their own. I just hope that’s what the people who live there really want.

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        I’d certainly be interested in how those Harvard studies were accomplished what with much of China not being on the Internet. 95 percent certainly sounds high.

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            That is by far the least satisfying study I’ve ever heard. 32000 people surveyed over 13 years. That’s essentially 3.5 people per city in China. How are we to take that as a valid survey?

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                This isn’t 32000 in 1 wave, though. This is ~2500 a year over 13 years. Even the answers given at the beginning of the study could have changed wildly if the same people had been polled at the end. And even if not, 4 people per city is not representative of an entire city at any given moment of time.

                What demographics in China did they poll each year? Did they poll people of different racial profiles? Did they poll uyhgurs? Were the candidates selected randomly or were the assigned by the government? If the latter, were they coached or paid? Any number of things could throw off that study.

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    Leftists in the U.S. can actually make change in the U.S. at a local scale, so we talk against the CCPR because what else can we do.

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    A catholic who hates the vatican. A doctor who hates the hospital they work at. A conservative who hates the republican party.

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      A leftist who wants capitalism, imperialism, authoritarianism, oligarchies gon- but wait not in a couple of places :)

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    i like to think that i’m plugged into lemmy; but then these insider joke posts keeping popping and i’m so confused.

    if it weren’t for the intense level of brigading; it probably wouldn’t have been aware that there was any controversy at all.

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      I don’t think there is brigading, I keep coming across these posts on /all, no doubt many others too. If the posts on lemmy.ml are not supposed to be seen/interacted with by other instances, why is it federated with them?