It’s a fantastic ideology; arguably perfect. Unfortunately, it has never worked and will never work because it is incompatible with human nature. The more humans involved, the more extreme the incompatibility.
does anyone using the “human nature” argument even know what they’re saying?
what about “human nature” or “humans aren’t perfect” undermines socialism or communism? by what mechanism?
it feels like it’s a talking point that means absolutely nothing when viewed critically, and is only mindlessly repeated because it sounds cynical and “smart”
It’s simple, if everybody were to get rewarded the same no matter how hard or how little they worked, then everyone would put the bare minimum, or even worse, not do anything at all, and there would be no productivity in society. That is when the “government” which theoretically should not even exist in communism but in practice is impossible, would step in and force labor, as we saw for example with the Soviet Union.
I find Communism quite simple.
It’s a fantastic ideology; arguably perfect. Unfortunately, it has never worked and will never work because it is incompatible with human nature. The more humans involved, the more extreme the incompatibility.
does anyone using the “human nature” argument even know what they’re saying?
what about “human nature” or “humans aren’t perfect” undermines socialism or communism? by what mechanism?
it feels like it’s a talking point that means absolutely nothing when viewed critically, and is only mindlessly repeated because it sounds cynical and “smart”
I suppose greed, the want of power, and “looking out for number one” is what they mean.
yeah but like how does that undermine socialism lol, the system is driven by self interest, you get from the system what you put into it
as opposed to capitalism where you just earn whatever your wage is regardless of your actual productivity
It’s simple, if everybody were to get rewarded the same no matter how hard or how little they worked, then everyone would put the bare minimum, or even worse, not do anything at all, and there would be no productivity in society. That is when the “government” which theoretically should not even exist in communism but in practice is impossible, would step in and force labor, as we saw for example with the Soviet Union.
yep and just as I thought it’s based on a fundamentally flawed understanding of socialism or communism
Neither system has everybody rewarded the same no matter how hard or little they work
This didn’t even happen in the Soviet union, it’s just theoretically, practically, and historically incorrect to think that’s how socialism works
From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs
What is this ideology
Communism will either work, or our planet will fall apart. Capitalism is unsustainable, economically, ecologically and socially.
Feudalism, imperialism and monarchism were all part of the evolution of governance systems leading to capitalism.
After capitalism comes socialism, then communism. As a matter of political science, it is inevitable. Unless we cook ourselves to death first.