4+ hr director’s cut: gimmie
I’d definitely watch that.
Even tho its a long movie, it did feel short and fast after reading the book lol
I want to see the courtroom showdown scene between Stratt and the copyright holders.
I was so sad this wasn’t there. It was such a badass scene in the book. It was effectively just STRATT pulling the Ron Swanson “I can do what I want” and winning.
Stratt’s characterisation in the film was very different. She came off as just another member of the hail mary team instead of the badass inhuman utilitarian boss she was in the book. A change for the worse IMO, though I think I’m in the minority there as one of her new scenes is supposedly very popular.
Grace was also quite different for that matter, though I’m more conflicted about that change.
Agreed on the stratt change. They seemingly watered her down a ton. It is what it is though. They also cut out a lot of the prep side if the mission. However they would have to cut something, it was already a 2.5 hour movie 🤣
Making Stratt a little more sympathetic and likeable probably wasn’t a bad idea for the translation to the screen. They did the same thing with Annie and Mitch in The Martian. Book!Annie is - when the cameras aren’t running - a foul mouthed abrasive asshat. Movie!Annie is a somewhat impatient jerk. Book!Mitch is a sledgehammer of a man, Movie!Mitch is a broody snotrag, I legitimately didn’t recognize Sean Bean’s character as Mitch Henderson.
Book!Stratt is, in Andy Weir’s words, “A badass ice cube in heels.” She’s one of very few characters I can think of who is an unambiguously good person, and also thoroughly ruthless. She has a habit of taking possession of people…and biomes…she deems useful. She gets a humanizing and sobering “why I’m like this” speech near the end that works well in a novel but I don’t know if it would play as well on screen.
I’ll take a 4 hour director’s cut any day!
Luckily there is a perfect copy available on the high seas
it was a nice and quiet watch in the theater. nobody said a word for the entire thing and afterwards everyone left silently. that’s how you know it’s good.
See also: funerals, corporate “town hall” meetings, and court cases.
(I’ve not seen it, I’ve only read Weir’s book, so I’m not seriously casting any judgement, I’m just amusing myself – but I was a little dismayed by the huge spoilers in the trailers.)
If you want to go down a weird rabbit hole, seek out the Japanese marketing stuff which is turns the “Ryan Gosling and Rocky are wacky room mates” up to 11. Does it have anything to do with the movie? No, but it is very Japanese
no, that’s just how cinemas work everywhere but the us.
Fucking mouth breathers in front of me who confessed they had not read the book. Dont read books. Were annoying all through the movie. I wish had more of the science. Fucking movie was made for none science types. Lots of great scenes in the book could of been in the movie over the stuff they made the fuck up not in the book.
i’ve read the martian, so i know how weir writes. that, combined with watching the movie, makes me want to read the book.
Not even a single laugh?
no, it’s impolite to make noise at the cinema. the only time it happens is when people don’t care about the movie.
This is a joke, right?
no, why would it be? personally i very much enjoyed the experience.
Laughing during a movie is impolite? That’s insane. So if somebody makes a joke you just sit there stonefaced like a psychopath?
it’s not insane, it’s just the norm. scandinavians are very reserved people.
Not laughing isn’t reserved, its repressed.
It sounds like a sad state of things when it’s polite to stifle laughter when humor happens in front of you, but I’m sure there’s a sane reason for it.
the reason is you care about the people around you. every time i’ve seen an american cinema it’s looked like a nightmare.
The ones near me have been pretty well-kept, but I imagine it varies by site. Either way, I fail to see how laughing at jokes means we don’t care about each other? I usually feel a sense of ease and connection when a theater collectively laughs quietly at a funny moment. A messy theater existing somewhere doesn’t change that moment into a bad one.
it’s just a matter of different atmospheres. people here want to be completely immersed in the experience and someone making noise around them ruins that. even children’s films tend to have completely quiet theatres because everyone is so focused.
Different strokes, I guess. This is a bizarre shot against the US though. I could take the same shot against your country for inverse reasons, but that would be silly.
That movie is already streaming from my home media server.
Good quality available or shitty cam recordings?
All I’ve found are shitty cam recordings. Granted, it’s better than the cam recordings 20 years ago, but still shit.
Nope. Some good quality is available.
Like the above reply, screen recording. But it’s not awful like it used to be.
Everything streams on the high seas.
It’s already in my Plex library.
Ikr…already seen in the comfort of home.
Me too. Enjoyed it a lot.
Since it’ll still be in theaters, going to find time to go see it. Worth it.
I’d rather wait than watch a telesync cam rip.
I’m not sure what Confused_Emus may be referring to, but I can tell you that there is a better version than a telesync cam rip already available. Otherwise, I completely agree with you.
Ah I see that now. My private tracker didn’t have it because the occasional hardcoded Russian subs.
Correct. There are English subs, but occasionally you’ll also see Russian. I typically use Usenet these days, and I occasionally search through qBit, but nothing was showing up and I’m not sure why. But, it is available on a popular DLing website.
Notice I said “pretty sure,” I didn’t say there wasn’t anything better available. It was just my guess based on the fact it’s still in theaters.
Your comment reads to me like you thought I was criticizing or questioning you, or something else, which I was not. If that was my intention, I would have replied directly to you.
I was only trying to be clear to the person I commented to that I may or may not have the same info as you, but either way, the info I was sharing was directed to the person I replied to. I’ll reply to your other comment in a sec.
Edit: Your original comment (above the person I replied to) only says
“It’s already in my Plex library.”
So, now I’m confused when you replied to me with
“Notice I said “pretty sure,” I didn’t say there wasn’t anything better available. It was just my guess based on the fact it’s still in theaters.”
I don’t or didn’t see where you said anything other than “It’s already in my Plex library.” Or, maybe you meant to reply to someone else?
Edit2: And just to be clear, I’m not the person down-voting you. This is just a misunderstanding. I was only trying to help the person I replied to.
You mentioned you didn’t know what I was referring to, so I clarified. My bad for being engaged in the comment thread that resulted from my original comment.
I don’t or didn’t see where you said anything other than “It’s already in my Plex library” when I originally replied. Or, maybe you meant to reply to someone else?
Stop being deliberately obtuse. We can all see the entire comment tree.
Talk about obtuse, you were replying to the wrong part of the thread. That’s what caused the confusion. Why didn’t you reply to my comment that caused you so much heartache? Instead, you replied to some other comment I made. There’s a reason why there is a Reply option under each comment.
Did you read what I wrote in the quote you included? I specifically said “when I originally replied,” or are you being deliberately obtuse?
Go touch grass. All I was saying is that I didn’t know what type of rip you had on your system to the person talking about cam rips, and let them know something better is available, and you may actually have that better rip. I didn’t know until later that you had a cam rip.
Why so sensitive? I was even still willing to help you find the better rip. Go grab a box of tissue and whine to someone else.
What a baiting twat.
There’s good files released somehow. Mine had russian subtitles every time there was English text, but otherwise totally good pictures
There’s a DCS rip, which is pretty good.
PM me link pls
I unfortunately don’t have any links available. The movie was automatically pulled and downloaded through my Radarr setup, and I’m pretty sure it sourced it from my Usenet provider. If it’s any consolation, I’m pretty sure most of the rips at this point are going to be telesyncs, anyway. Hard to tell with the copy I have, but the colors seem a bit dim, so I’m pretty sure it was captured off of a screen.
There is a better version than a telesync available. Unfortunately, I was not able to find it on usenet (my first option these days), but another popular, well-known site has it for dl. I was not able to find it using the qBit search function.
Do you happen to know who the release group is?
ETA: Fuck me for asking, I guess?
Yes, but I don’t know the rules on this sub (whatever a sub is called on here), and I don’t want to get banned. DM me and I’ll tell you.
Saw it in IMAX, felt worth it. Loved the book, loved the movie, super disappointed in the author. Might not of done either of the first two things if I knew he was going on “anti-woke” podcasts bragging how he doesn’t write politics.
Ya know, the one about averting catastrophic climate change.
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One of the things I do worry about sometimes among progressives in the United States…is a certain kind of rigidity where we say, “I’m sorry, this is how it’s going to be,” and then we start sometimes creating what’s called a circular firing squad, where you start shooting at your allies because one of them is straying from purity on the issues, and when that happens, typically the overall effort and movement weakens.
– Barack Obama, 2019
So. An examination of Andy Weir’s works indicate he’s got a head full of progressive ideas. His two biggest works have major themes of setting aside differences to cooperate to solve massive problems using evidence-based science. He writes female characters in positions of authority, in the case of Eva Stratt, he wrote the most powerful person on Earth as a woman. When writing Artemis, he gave drafts to women in his life to read for input on his portrayal of Jazz.
“I never put any politics or messaging in my stories; there’s no deeper meaning, there isn’t even any symbolism.”
Make ready. Take aim. Open fire.
I understand where you’re coming from, and I watched the Jessie Gender video posted lower in this thread when it came out initially, but I think the issue is that it’s hard to know if he’s actually an ally. I really don’t love the firing squad analogy, but even so, it takes for granted that he’s an ally. A bunch of people on the right have progressive ideas, they just either don’t care about them as much as they care about their regressive ones, or they don’t see them as “progressive”. They see corruption and they think less regulation will solve that. They see dwindling middle class and they think lower taxes will fix that. He seemed a bit chummy with critical drinker and doesn’t like the politics in Star Trek. He doesn’t seem to understand the underlying politics in his own works. It makes it seem like despite his underlying beliefs, he’s not an actual political ally. I didn’t do any further looking, but from the interview he comes off as a republican despite his works seeming progressive. At the end of the day I don’t think he’s as harmful as JK Rowling, but I don’t see this as a purity test. I see this as a “it’s unclear where you stand” and I think that’s valid because to exist in modern America and not think your art is political makes you stupid or republican and I don’t think he’s stupid. I understand not wanting to support a republican artist and if that’s the assumption people are left with and he doesn’t want to correct it then I think that’s an understandable outcome. I don’t care how well he writes women if he’s not interested in rights being stripped from real women.
See?
A bunch of people on the right have progressive ideas, they just either don’t care about them as much as they care about their regressive ones, or they don’t see them as “progressive”.
And these people, are they “on The Right” because they’ve already been othered by The Left? See, I myself have been accused of being a “right wing nazi chud” only a day or two ago in another thread on this same topic. To the nut case accusing me, it didn’t matter that I consistently vote Democrat and consistently vote against right-wing ballot measures, for instance I voted against NC HB2 “The Bathroom Bill” in 2016. Didn’t matter. Nut case accused the entire Democratic party of right wingedness along with me. Which means in this person’s eyes there’s no ACTUAL political action I can take that will put me on their side, I’m discarded as an enemy for the crime of being okay with Andy Weir. My irredeemable sin? Labeling terminally online gender obsessed leftists “bluehairs” to contrast them with far right “skinheads.” As thought crimes go, that one’s a capital offense.
I see this as a “it’s unclear where you stand” and I think that’s valid because to exist in modern America and not think your art is political makes you stupid or republican and I don’t think he’s stupid.
Grammatically speaking, I think this sentence has rabies. I think what you mean is, all art is political, and if you don’t think so you’re Republican or stupid. Okay, if all art is political, what statement is being made by the creator of this:
I’ve seen that assertion made a lot in the backlash to Weir appearing on Critical Drinker’s show. “Everything’s political, especially Sci-Fi.” Bullshit. Sci-fi is a useful venue for exploring ethical dilemmas, granted, but what law says that’s what it must be used for? Who the fuck are you to tell me what I can and can’t mean while writing fiction? Andy Weir uses accurate science for world and story building. By his own admission, he’s not a good enough writer to come up with the climactic “Do I continue to Earth and survive, or do I sacrifice myself to save Rocky?” dilemma; that was derived from the astrophage lifecycle. Sometimes the curtains are fucking blue.
I’m more willing to buy the premise…have you ever heard it said that all works of art are unintentional period pieces? Like, Amadeus is set in 1830, but it’s a very 1980’s movie? Part of that is reflecting the political character of its creators. So what of Andy Weir’s character do you see reflected in his works?
At the end of the day I don’t think he’s as harmful as JK Rowling,
JK Rowling significantly funds anti-trans organizations and causes. Andy Weir’s charitable contributions include The Planetary Society, the National Air and Space Museum and Space Center Houston, all to promote space exploration and STEM education. He’s done fundraisers for Marie Curie, a cause in the UK supporting people living with terminal illnesses. Based on what he actually does, I’m pretty okay with the man.
wait really? i hadn’t heard heard about this
Jesse Gender has the best take on it, because there is a bit of nuance since Weir did apologize for some of it, but only for the parts that might affect his ability to write TV or movies. Not for apparently being friends with Critical Drinker, inviting him to premiere, talking up his book and going through anti-woke talking points with him.
Oof, that’s not great. The critical drinker is such a loser shit-heel.
Yikes. There’s only a handful of channels I block on YouTube and Critical Drinker is one of them. I’m good not paying money for this movie. Yo ho, yo ho.
yeah the only thing i’ve found is soundbites and others adding “woke” to what he said, and him apologising for those things. i don’t know what the podcast is but if that’s the only thing people seem to be talking about it doesn’t seem like the other stuff can be worse, right?
i’ll watch jessie’s video, i usually like her stuff even if we disagree on a lot of things.
Seriously. Can’t have any heroes these days.
That movie was speeding through all the events. It’s an ok movie but it really needed to be longer.
…yeah the share it with others were you have to be completely quiet and not interact at all.
Ill wait for it to get to one of my streamers.
Add to that, the only “affordable” theater in my area just shut down. Like a week before this came out. I’m not paying $60+ for 2 hours in seats not built for a tall person.
Share it with others who also have to pay exorbitant amounts that end up lining the pockets of the studios.
They don’t care about the experience of the film. If it weren’t making money, it would be on streaming in a week.
While you’re right and studios don’t give a fuck, I do agree. At my theater its 10 dollars to see a movie. If you dont have that, you should be rethinking things.
I enjoy movies with others. I’m also lucky that I always have a super respectful crowd when i go. Midwest nice I guess.
If only they would b…, the coughing, the eating, the BREATHING
Me and my family really wanted to watch it in theaters but they only hsd it in hungarian in hungary(even tho they usually have it with english audio in some cities) so i decided to just sail the high seas. I got a rip somehow that wasnt camera recorded tho pretty sure the audio was.
I’m happy to wait. I read the book, I know what happens. Also, I don’t have any “others” to share it with.
(I don’t care how good the telesync version is supposed to be.)
Having read the book will help you enjoy the movie. The plot closely follows the book, but it doesn’t have time to fully explain why they’re doing what they’re doing. The book is mostly the main character’s internal monologue describing his process and reasoning while troubleshooting one problem after another. The movie just shows him doing all that stuff with no explanation.
Anyone else feel like the book moved at kind of a breakneck pace compared to The Martian?
Like, The Martian went through this whole thing about using ASCII instead of the alphabet with the speak and spell…to communicate with people Watney knew personally. Meanwhile Grace and Rocky just…learn each other’s languages. “I wrote a program in about 6 hours.”
i’m pretty sure in the book, it’s started that weeks or months have taken place between those points. i could be misremembering though
Yeah I’d much rather watch it at home where I don’t have Kyle, three aisles up, call one of his buddies for half the movie. Fucking Kyle.
I swear there hasn’t been this much insanity since VistaVision vs Todd-AO
Most of the PLFs (Premium Large Formats) are gimmicks. The only ones that really matter are IMAX, Dolby Cinema, and 70mm if you like analog film instead of digital.
And pay a shit ton of money for popcorn and Doritos. Fucking 100 Bucks or more easy.
I’ll wait for the 4K UHD disk. Let me watch it without distractions of a-holes with crinkly wrappers.
Same, but different reasons. Here it’s either dub (eww) or original voice with no CC, which is usually a shitty experience with poor audio setup.
