Before starting a war, ask yourself what victory would look like. It appears here that the goal is wiping Gaza entirely and anything short of that will be construed as a loss.
That’s the goal?
They are at 1.5% of the population of Gaza and daily death tolls have fallen month after month. If that’s the goal shouldn’t the killing apparatus become more effective and not 20% less so each month?
Hmm, perhaps your reasoning is flawed.
Yeah remember how when Hitler first shoved all the jews into concentration camps
Then he let them suffer and die in those camps for a while
Then he made dedicated death camps to kill them all
So I guess we should wait until the death toll reaches at least 25% before we start to do anything just like how the allies definitely waited for Hitler to make death camps before fighting with his army.
It’s a stupid comparison.
Then explain why excessive civilian casualties are acceptable lmao
Because that’s Hamas’s strategy, to put people in harms way and then prey on your sympathy. It’s called lawfare.
Lawfare is a word Israel likes to use when Palestinians appeal to international law.
When we do it, it’s lawfare. When Israel genocides Gaza, it’s just defending itself. And hell has frozen over btw
Monthly death tolls are rising, what are you talking about?
Check your figures.
You’re the one claiming they’re falling, the burden of proof is on you.
I don’t care if you believe me or not, I’m unburdened. The daily death tally is and has been trending downward since this second or third week.
So fucking what? 20 less people die each day and that makes it okay for you? Starvation snd disease orchestrated by Israel will kill many more soon but I’m sure you’ll find an excuse.
Great, then we should stop funding their government and military spending. If they won’t stop, we can. Of course we won’t, but we could and should.
I cannot find a single person on earth that can give a valid reason for sending them any money or armament whatsoever. We gain absolutely nothing from supporting them. Nothing at all.
Conservatives cry crocodile tears about “wasting money”. Every penny ever sent to Israel has been wasted. It’s not an investment. There is no return. There is no political or financial gain of any kind for us.
US gains an ally in a very important region of the world. They have huge strategic value. Saying there is nothing is misguided.
Looks like allying with Israel has only been detrimental to the US. It’s been great for Zionists who need the US’ protection, though.
Osama bin Laden cited US’ support for Israel as one of the reasons for the 9/11 attacks.
Think about the billions, or perhaps trillions, of dollars the US has lost out on because of its support of Israel.
We need to drop them like a bad habit.
Okay, what’s your point? I’m stating a fact. They have high strategic value. I don’t need to be convinced that it’s expensive or risky
Re-read my comment until it makes sense.
I was very clear about my point from the very beginning.
Drop that reddit shit and just explain when someone asks.
Lol, what?
We have an ally next door, Jordan.
We’d probably have more allies if we dropped support.
What we are doing is equivalent to us deciding to support North Korea and being shocked that all of a sudden we lose regional support from just about everyone.
Israel, especially with an ongoing genocide, is toxic to stability and alliances. It isolates more than it gives strategic advantage.
Everyone keeps ignoring Jordan but it literally has the best cultural and economic relations with the US. Were they not even together in the anti ISIS coalition?
But nope, Israeli lobbying is stronger than all of our voices combined.
Sounds like Bibi is trying to implement some sort of “final solution” with regards to the Palestinians.
It is truly flabbergasting to watch the Israeli government categorically ignore the incredibly obvious and terrible irony here.
It just proves to me that people are people.
How can we get to the root of our problems if we continue to group people from different regions as separate and distinct?
We’re all the same species. We’re humans dehumanizing humans to make killing humans easier under the leadership of a tiny fraction of our species fighting to go down in history. Same as it ever was.
Even when we do our absolute best to be good to each other, we still break ourselves into groups. “You can’t wear braids, that’s cultural appropriation!” The person who says that means well, but ultimately we have to stop treating each other as, well, other.
The only thing that makes us any different is actually something that we should strive to see as similarity. That is which individuals from which time influenced what area and how that don’t really matter and was just luck (or bad luck) of the draw.
So what if 3,000 years ago some dude thought it was cool to paint stripes on his face and wear a big hat which lead to millions painting stripes on their faces while wearing big hats over there in a distant land.
It’s the same damn thing as some dude over here thinking that a white wig and a big frilly shirt was rad and millions following in his footsteps.
It really is simple. Our cultures are built from people who came and went before us and folks following them and spreading the rad (or ugly) shit they did.
Our culture has to reach a point where it is considered a collective and shared human culture.
Who fucked who, where, and how much influence they left on their descendants and how much we give a shit about the where isn’t helping us. If an alien abducted 10 humans from different regions they wouldn’t even give a thought to how our history separates us. They’d just have 10 of a species from the planet earth.
I hope we get it together one day. It breaks my heart that those people are suffering so terribly right now. The malnourished kids in those photos remind me of the ones from the holocaust.
It would be nice if the people in power could relate their suffering to that of their grandparents. It really would.
Sorry I’m all over the place.
