• Minotaur@lemm.ee
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    7 months ago

    Genuinely curious: what does a “serious person” do to change minds here?

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      7 months ago

      Work with legislatures or even boycott a business. You push for actual change that is reasonable and meaningful. Instead of trying to push electric down everyone’s throats, push hybrids. Push plug in hybrids. We have the ability to do that now.

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        7 months ago

        Well, those are two very different things. One is essentially for politicians and basically amounts to “just get Congress to do better” (a whole lot easier said than done) and one is an act that essentially has to be championed by a person or organization and then implemented by a masse of people. Greta has called for boycotts before, so under this definition she’s good under your boat.

        I’ve read other comments of yours, and many of them are reasonable (more reasonable than the average user at least) and not worthy of downvotes. But your solutions seem to be missing a few steps between “be where we are now” and “just get everyone to drive a hybrid”.

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          7 months ago

          Greta calling for a boycott, just would make people buy the product.

          Bud light recently was boycotted and look how effective that was.

          I’m not missing a step, you increase fuel taxes, end subsidies, end fracking and make hybrids tax advantageous.

          The market will sort itself out very quickly.

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            7 months ago

            Okay, well you just added several steps right there, and you’re still missing some.

            Who increases fuel taxes and subsidies? How do we as a civilization get that done?

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              7 months ago

              Your state senators and state representatives at the local and federal level. Taxes are done by the government. Remove subsidies are the same people.

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                7 months ago

                Okay. How do we influence those state representatives to pass that legislation?

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                  7 months ago

                  Meeting with them. Ask them to coffee or lunch. Build some rapport with them and then invite them to meet with like minded citizens.

                  The issue is everyone knows if we increase gas taxes or remove subsidies. It’ll crush the lower class people. It’s why both parties dance around the issue.

                  It’s also the only way to get rid of people driving 5 mpg suv. You have to price them out of it.