I DM’d db0 before posting this, but didn’t give them the substance of the post. Without knowing all that was going on, they approved me, but if after reading this they decide to remove it, I understand.
Hey, Fediverse.
I’ve been modding !news@lemmy.world, !politicalmemes@lemmy.world, !movies@lemmy.world, !games@lemmy.world, !gaming@lemmy.world and others for a while now. I’ve been the subject of many posts on this very community in fact. Usually, the people here agree with my decisions, and I appreciate all feedback, good or bad.
Well, as you know doubt know (and if you don’t, go through my comment history), I’ve tried my best to stay out of the whole “Lemmy.world admin/mod” thing going on.
I didn’t post anything other than facts, and I didn’t pick sides. This is because on a personal level, Staments and Jordan Lund are friends of mine. I have talked to them on multiple occasions about many things not fedi-related.
When the whole thing came out from the write-up Stamets did here, I followed it, but kept to myself. Friends shouldn’t pick favorites. I still won’t speak my mind on that topic.
I WILL, however, speak towards how the admins handled it.
They blatantly said that they didn’t like the behavior being pointed out to be the face of lemmy.world. They also took minimum action. For 2 weeks.
What became of that? After 2 weeks, the punted it to the moderation team. Me, and @Tenthrow@lemmy.world .
I can’t speak for Tenthrow, but I was given no notice of this decision. During the 2 weeks of silence, they messaged me a total of 1 time to remind me that as the top moderator of news, I had the power to remove Jordan from the moderation staff.
Now, let me say this: the whole time he moderated news, I only had a single complaint about his activity. I banned him for 2 days for that.
Back to the topic at hand. Fast forward to a couple days ago, and I get a few messages about an update in the lemmy world announcement community.
They had decided to remove top mod from Jordan on all communities without talking to the mods. They then said “The new top mods can now take appropriate actions”. This means that I became the top moderator of !thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world with no notice (a failing on the platform, imo - why couldn’t they notify us when we are added as a mod?). I decided to demoderate Jordan in the communities we are in together, as I just am tired of all the drama. I hope he understands that.
Again, I had no reason to remove him from the mod team in my communities, but for them to pass the buck to me, without any kind of heads-up? That was too much. Us mods do a lot of shit. We take a TON of shit. We’re human, and we make mistakes. All we ask is that the admins keep their shit in their toilet, and off our plate.
This isn’t the first time the admin team has made…questionable decisions. A while back they told everybody that they were not allowing people to remove alternative views. This logically included some stupid shit like flat-earth views. They never changed that rule, but never touched on the topic again.
Because of this, I have decided that while Lemmy and the fediverse as a whole is a worthy experiment, I have reached the end of my time here.
I will say that the people on the admin staff and I are friendly, mostly. There’s the odd person that calls me some weird shit, but I’m a weird guy. Overall, I’ve had positive interactions with them, but they often forget that moderators deal with hundreds to thousands of reports a day (on some days, obviously), keeping the platform civil and clean for them, at no cost.
My final day will be 20 October, 2025. After that, I will leave the account active, but won’t be checking on it.
I wish everybody reading this (and those that haven’t) the best here, and I hope it can be built into something that is better than where we came from. I just don’t have the energy to take hits from both sides anymore.
Is .world the only instance or am I missing something here? Like are these admins you speak of all Lemmy or just .world?
as my account is a lemmy.world (as is yours!) account, and the communities I moderate reside on lemmy.world, when I talk about the admins, I am only talking about the lemmy.world admins
I think he’s pointing at at the fact you mention leaving Lemmy because of Lemmy.world issues. Why not use another instance, as a mod or not?
Just tired of it, I guess.
Naturally, I’m a lurker. Moderation has been the most I’ve ever interacted on social media, and that started here.
I think it’s just best to make a clean cut.
No offense, but that really sounds silly. Sh.itjust.works have been nothing but awesome as admins. I moderate a fairly large community and all they do is help out when I’m not around. The whole Piefed thing sounds great too, you can interact with Lemmy, but use a completely different system. Idk, quitting seems odd.
Thanks.
I guess I’m just sad that if I rejoined on a different instance and blocked .world, it would have 1/10 the content.
Reminder: I’m a lurker so any drama would just be more content for me when I’m just browsing.
I’m treating it as a break up. Cut all contact with her and her family.
Does it make sense? Most likely not.
FYI, I had a run in with an admin at lemmy.world way in the beginning of my time here on lemmy. This particular one was deleting my comments when he didn’t agree or something? Not sure why. (*Note: the comments weren’t being removed like a mod would, they weren’t in the modlogs.) I deleted the entire account and moved here to sh.itjust.works because it was too much like reddit. I was then banned from world for a year. I think he called me a bad poster? Can’t remember, but it was funny. It wasn’t a big deal and lemmy was still way better than any other platform. If I were you, I’d try piefed. You still see things world, even if you’re banned. I don’t even notice them and do my own thing.
Out of curiosity, does that person still moderate .world? The world admin I interact with regularly has been very nice.
Yep, I just checked. There’s quite a few over there, I’m sure some of them are great. World has a weird reddit energy to it though, I try to post there as a last resort.
So 1/10 the content vs… 0/10 by leaving altogether. Do you plan on going back to Reddit, somewhere else, or just quitting cold turkey from all of it?
Cold turkey. Better for my mental health.
Social media is anything but.
No, that’s understandable.
If a moderator is banned due to their activity, that person shouldn’t be a moderator.
Everybody makes mistakes.
I gave a ban to show nobody is above the rules. I made the ban length commiserate of the infraction.
Moderators are just people doing a volunteer job and make a lot of mistakes. If I see someone being borderline, I always sigh with relief when I don’t have to figure it out, because it’s not one I mod. They’re not on a pedestal, they’re trying to herd kind, unruly, funny, obnoxious, cats.
Yes, this is the result of a lemmy.world instance decision.