What liberals opposed this? It’s weird that liberal is now a word Americans use to mean whoever they dislike. I know the right loves ICE but what liberal does?
Many Democratic politicians, such as Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota and former Vice President Kamala Harris of California, believe that ICE should be reformed rather than abolished. Harris stated that Democrats should “critically re-examine ICE” and “think about starting from scratch” with American immigration policy, while Senator Bernie Sanders stated that Democrats should instead encourage Trump to work with them on “a national program which deals with this serious issue.”
Hey look at that, more evidence of bernie being a spineless lapdog for the exact same powers he claims to oppose. This certainly proves the point about abolishing ice being wrong and doesnt show exactly how liberals allowed this to happen.
They’re raiding schools and courthouses my dude. If you think Obama tolerated ICE ambushing people at their immigration hearings than you are reeeeeeeeeeaaally dumb. Sorry not sorry.
You don’t think immigration enforcement had been doing horrendous shit before this last year? At the school of the Americas border patrol agents taught fascist kill squads that systematically raping nuns is a good way to pacify a populace. It’s always been a shit organization.
Oh I forgot, the American left has gone insane. You guys punch left and blame Obama now, while trump and the right eat your lunch.
FYI it’s not Obama, or even trump, it’s your trash country and its trash people. As an indigenous person, im enjoying you morons eat each other, can’t wait for your country to die
See that’s the problem, when did I advocate for ice? You hear what you want to hear and explode on anyone who even so much as asks a question. There is no more discourse, anyone even slightly right or even left of you is an enemy. That’s why you guys are fucked, and you deserve it.
You asked should Obama have abolished ice. I said yes. You then called everyone on the left insane and the entire country trash. But it’s other people who explode huh? And if someone answering yes to a simple question gets that vitriolic of a response I have trouble believing you weren’t advocating one way or another.
You must understand, the Russian and Chinese agents who seek to divide us are now turning Democrats against each over by bisecting them into “the left” and an ancient definition of “liberals” that would include George Bush Sr among other right wing characters.
That what the aim of these posts is. Any time you see “the left” pitted against “liberals”, you can safely ignore whatever bullshit else is on the page.
These influences now have moved overseas to the UK and Australia.
It’s pretty universally accepted by anyone who cares enough to look that there are Eastern European (Russian) bot farms manipulating social media to divide and weaken Western countries.
What liberals opposed this? It’s weird that liberal is now a word Americans use to mean whoever they dislike. I know the right loves ICE but what liberal does?
From Wikipedia:
He used the word absolutely the correct way.
Hey look at that, more evidence of bernie being a spineless lapdog for the exact same powers he claims to oppose. This certainly proves the point about abolishing ice being wrong and doesnt show exactly how liberals allowed this to happen.
Bernie wasonly good in the sense that he radicalized a bunch of folks.
Literally every single democratic politician in office
Obama and Biden had full, 100% unchecked authority to shut down ICE but they didn’t.
Did they need to? Obama wasnt running 2025 ICE.
ICE has literally always been this way, just smaller scale and careful to do their bullshit out of public view.
I’ve been complaining about the migra since your people were bombing my country and calling me a wetback
They’re raiding schools and courthouses my dude. If you think Obama tolerated ICE ambushing people at their immigration hearings than you are reeeeeeeeeeaaally dumb. Sorry not sorry.
You don’t think immigration enforcement had been doing horrendous shit before this last year? At the school of the Americas border patrol agents taught fascist kill squads that systematically raping nuns is a good way to pacify a populace. It’s always been a shit organization.
A frog in hot water you are.
You allllllmost made it to the end of my single sentence post.
Since you don’t seem to be a big fan of text, listen to this podcast which talks about some of the bullshit they’ve always been up to.
Buddy nobody is defending ICE here… except you… who’s normalizing their fascist takeover.
Please provide an example of ICE not being fascist.
A frog in hot water you are.
Yes
Oh I forgot, the American left has gone insane. You guys punch left and blame Obama now, while trump and the right eat your lunch.
FYI it’s not Obama, or even trump, it’s your trash country and its trash people. As an indigenous person, im enjoying you morons eat each other, can’t wait for your country to die
Then why the fuck would you advocate for keeping ICE around? ICE has been harassing native people for being dark-skinned for its entire existence.
They never did.
Neither did 90% of what the left considers liberals.
You are literally proving their point here.
See that’s the problem, when did I advocate for ice? You hear what you want to hear and explode on anyone who even so much as asks a question. There is no more discourse, anyone even slightly right or even left of you is an enemy. That’s why you guys are fucked, and you deserve it.
You asked should Obama have abolished ice. I said yes. You then called everyone on the left insane and the entire country trash. But it’s other people who explode huh? And if someone answering yes to a simple question gets that vitriolic of a response I have trouble believing you weren’t advocating one way or another.
The world would be a better place if every American including you dropped dead tomorrow
You must understand, the Russian and Chinese agents who seek to divide us are now turning Democrats against each over by bisecting them into “the left” and an ancient definition of “liberals” that would include George Bush Sr among other right wing characters.
That what the aim of these posts is. Any time you see “the left” pitted against “liberals”, you can safely ignore whatever bullshit else is on the page.
Or maybe Democrat policy deserves legitimate criticism after repeated failures? No, it must be those scary foreigners.
Are these Russian and Chinese agents who want to divide “us” (who do you mean with “us”?) In the room with us right now?
I guess I can ignore about 150 years of history then, huh? Liberalism is a right-wing ideology, homie.
Scarily enough, Eastern European bot farms with strong ties to Russia have been all over the internet for ages.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
Also, Microsoft releases reports on foreign influence ahead of US elections:
https://msblogs.thesourcemediaassets.com/sites/5/2023/11/MTAC-Report-2024-Election-Threat-Assessment-11082023-2-1.pdf
https://msblogs.thesourcemediaassets.com/sites/5/2024/04/MTAC-Report-Elections-Report-Nation-states-engage-in-US-focused-influence-operations-ahead-of-US-presidential-election-04172024.pdf
These influences now have moved overseas to the UK and Australia.
It’s pretty universally accepted by anyone who cares enough to look that there are Eastern European (Russian) bot farms manipulating social media to divide and weaken Western countries.
And… the explicit anarchist is a russian troll now? O.o
I don’t follow.
I was simply replying to the statement:
With some facts about that sort of thing happening, since many people seem to be unaware and take a similar tone implying it’s crazy.
Just because something exists, doesn’t mean it’s valid to accuse someone of being that thing whenever they say something you don’t like.
Nazis exist, too. That doesn’t mean it’s valid to accuse Anark of being a nazi.
yeah, it’s how we got brexit and trump
Funny how they also sell the “solutions” to this scary “problem”.
That sounds just like what a leftist what believes slightly different than I do would say! They ruined leftism!
My favorite feature of being a lefty is how well we get along with each other.
My favorite lefties work on themselves and seek to genuinely understand the roots of any disagreement.
At the best of times, they cut through the crap by aligning with me on the basic values we all hold. Such as:
Isn’t this everyone’s experience?