Only if you’re ethically bankrupt, or a liberal.

There it is. The thinly veiled Islamophobia.

I doubt that’s going to work in the Hague.

Neither were the churches. Or the hospitals. Or the UN facilities. Or the Schools. Or the desalination plant. Or the tents filled with refugees. Or the graves of Australian soldiers. Or Palestinian civilians. Or the greenhouses.

Do you understand?

Oh mate - that just would make them authoritarians. They’re already fascist.

Does someone have to spell out to you what an insurgency is? Or what asymmetric fighting is?

Is the IOF really so incompetent it has no access to the last 40 years of American imperialist strategy? Or can we drop the facade of logic and say this is about causing as much collateral damage/trauma as possible soas to cleanse Palestine of Palestinians.

The world knows a frontier war when we see one.

Israel is a violent settler apartheid. No.

Don’t you have a flag to wave over a razed hospital somewhere?

Exactly. The only language violence respects or listens to is violence.

It’s the tolerance paradox - and why it’s a death sentence to tolerate groups or people who won’t reciprocate tolerance.

Doesn’t mean they should get away with it.

Yeah, America really needs to get its shit together and shrug of corporate capture.

I mean, it’s far right attacks on left-leaning politicians. I can see where they’re coming from - it’s reminiscent of the brown shirts.

Agreed. This was a copout.

They’re a last-ditch liberation movement with four discreet wings of praxis, dude. Moreover, the Palestinian Authority is collaborationist with occupying forces - this isn’t about manufacturing an endless war, though I’m sure Lockheed Martin and Elbit shareholders would love that - this is about reclaiming tangible avenues for political agency that were either captured or outright denied, violently, by ‘Israel’.

You disagree, sure, but you don’t seem to understand the inhuman scale, decades of systemic violence, a population has to endure to make violence the only mutually understood language left.

Also - to your point - it doesn’t help how many peaceful community leaders, politicians and organizers have been assassinated by the IOF and settlers in the last 75 years. Democracy, as presented by the PA, was never earnest or effectual in occupied Palestine - it was always a membrane of indigenous skin stretched over the occupiers demands.

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Wall cracks.

Yes but also wise up - we’re not the same as Exxon Mobil or Rio Tinto. We individually need to make our changes, absolutely - but they won’t unless we force them to do so and they dwarf us in output to an inhuman degree.

Simply - we need to stop their machines in a very literal sense. They’ve already shown that dialogue and scientific reasoning is an utterly useless vehicle for change in the face of their organisations - so we need to start speaking in languages they understand. Remove their ability to function. Direct action is the answer to the question.

I’m more in the blockade a port/unmake a pipeline/put sand in the oil tanks kind of a mindset but go off

Dude. The world is being killed and the people killing it have names and addresses. This is not a untouchable force of nature causing our homes to flood and burn while the ecosystems that allow us to farm collapse.

You have agency. Get angry, channel it and get active.

Their centrist pearl clutching hasn’t done anything so far so why make yourself smaller to appease someone who won’t help anyway? Sorry - get real about the stakes or get aside.