My point was that while Independent Jewish leaders are calling for the boycott. The State of Israel on the other hand, is holding hands up with Trump like a tag team.
His post was emulating the excuse people use when they are trying to deflect away from something obviously bad. The state of Israel will refuse to say that what Elon did was antisemitic or an actual Nazi salute. They will talk around the subject and say it wasn’t ACTUALLY the Nazi salute, just him being exuberant in the moment. Or they will point out that the salute was around in Roman times and isn’t actually an antisemitic salute even though Hitler used it, just like people will point out that the swastika is an ancient symbol from Hinduism so it also isn’t antisemitic.
For a religion this old, you will find a lot of people with different ideas about the “fundamentals”. There is a lot of Jewish scholars that reject Zionism and in particular in the beginning of the Zionist movement it was strongly opposed by religious scholars. They had to work quite extensively to create a “new understanding” of how to mix Zionism with Judaism, which over the time led to there now being particularly extreme Zionists, who claim to base it off of Judaism.
That (nazi salute) isn’t antisemitic at all!
For fuck sake.
My point was that while Independent Jewish leaders are calling for the boycott. The State of Israel on the other hand, is holding hands up with Trump like a tag team.
Pretty sure that was his point too
I’m pretty sure they understood your point… not sure you got theirs.
you want to just spell it out for me so I dont have to guess at what’s being insenuated and cause more pointless back and forth argument comments?
His post was emulating the excuse people use when they are trying to deflect away from something obviously bad. The state of Israel will refuse to say that what Elon did was antisemitic or an actual Nazi salute. They will talk around the subject and say it wasn’t ACTUALLY the Nazi salute, just him being exuberant in the moment. Or they will point out that the salute was around in Roman times and isn’t actually an antisemitic salute even though Hitler used it, just like people will point out that the swastika is an ancient symbol from Hinduism so it also isn’t antisemitic.
He was agreeing with you, basically.
You’re right, it isn’t!
Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. In fact, I’m pretty sure it is in direct OPPOSITION to Judaism, if you follow the fundamentals.
For a religion this old, you will find a lot of people with different ideas about the “fundamentals”. There is a lot of Jewish scholars that reject Zionism and in particular in the beginning of the Zionist movement it was strongly opposed by religious scholars. They had to work quite extensively to create a “new understanding” of how to mix Zionism with Judaism, which over the time led to there now being particularly extreme Zionists, who claim to base it off of Judaism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism#Early_Jewish_anti-Zionism