• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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              1 month ago

              Which takes a lot of time and money and manpower. It also requires people who understand how to manufacture those things.

              Don’t pretend this would be either easy or doable within any sort of short timeframe.

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                It has to start somewhere 
                It has to start sometime 
                What better place than here? 
                What better time than now?

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                  It has been started. It is happening. But it will take a very, very long time before the West will be able to rely on themselves and not China for important manufacturing.

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                    It has not been started in any serious way. There is basically no incentive to manufacture most goods in the US.

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                    1 month ago

                    I don’t recall hearing anything recently about a push to manufacture inside the states. Just a lot of pushing to places like India.

        • I imagine that it will somehow turn out to be a “private company” in China that’s cooperating, rather than an official gov’t organ. Already the gov’t is saying it’s unaware of this project, so…

          So yes sanctions will apply to the “companies” that are involved (which are basically fly by night, or spring up once to do this and then fold themselves). More usefully, some individuals might get named and sanctioned. And finally there’ll be a new talking point in negotiations with China in getting greater cooperation to reign in some of these private companies.

          Not saying we shouldn’t try to sanction them. But it’s also worth being mindful of the challenges ahead.

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        I like how people are like ‘just build factories here’ as if many of the raw materials for those factories arent also from China, or processed in China.

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        This will force the hand of US and EU to sanction China one way or another. Of course diplomatic solutions can be worked out. What it will be has yet to be seen. As you’re aware, China has tried to avoid supplying arms directly to Russia until this move. It maybe that Chinese will manufacture the drones in Russia to avoid being seen as exporting arms.