• appel@lemmy.ml
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    Whenever someone calls something “socialist”, ask them to explain socialism to you and watch their argument fold like a wet blanket. They usually have no idea. In fact, many would love a healthy dose of Northern European socialism in their lives, as long as you call it “Owningthelibism” or something.

    This is why we can’t have nice things.

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      I had multiple times experiences like that with American redditors.

      They would say that socialism is nazism because National Socialism.

      So yeah, didn’t know really what to answer to such level of ignorance.

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        I’ve always countered that with the following :

        Yes, Nazi’s, the very trustworthy group that would not lie about calling themselves socialists for propoganda and popularity reasons (post ww1 German public had popular sentiment with socialist ideas). The same ones that went out of their way to then kill Jews, communists, socialists, and other individuals that believed in socialistic ideals.

        I’m also sure that the democratic peoples republic of Korea has very fair and free democratic elections!

        If they continue arguing about it after that then I know they’re a lost cause

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      There are “socialists” running around who don’t know what socialism is. Hint: it has nothing to do with government-subsidized services.

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        Yeah but they’re still linked. Like, yeah socialism has nothing to do with welfare programmes. However in the real world where a government is involved government welfare programmes are the most obvious tools that the government uses to enact socialism. Talking about one leads into talking about the other. Unless we’re talking anarchy.

        Attica! Attica!

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        While that’s technically true. It’s not truly accurate. Considering that at the time a lot of these terms were coined. Healthcare was either nonexistent or a much different thing. Nationalizing basic needs makes a lot of sense in, and is often an agenda of socialist and communist systems.

        Just because they don’t match or evolved past those archaic definitions doesn’t make you more right or them less ultimately. We might large that they should go further. But there’s no true Scotsman Naval gazing is only counterproductive.

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      Bless the cold war brainwash with loads if patriotism on USA citizens. It seems to still be working.

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    i love all kinds of socialist shit:

    socialized medicine

    socialized housing

    socialized transportation

    you know what kinda’ socialism SUCKS though? Socialized risk, where corporations get to distribute their burdens but hoard all their profits.

    THAT kind of socialism needs to fucking die.

  • JustAManOnAToilet@lemmy.world
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    But that engine is somewhat socialist. It evenly distributes fluids throughout, each component having the same amount of influence on whether or not the engine as a whole can function. One stops working and the others all stop in solidarity.

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      It’s not. The four cylinders make up 5% of the engine but get 95% of the fuel.

      And what usually causes engine failure? The cylinders. And who do we bail out each time? Those same goddamn cylinders.

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    It’s true. Everything I don’t like is socialist. And referring to things that don’t work as socialist no matter the context is an excellent idea, I’ll be doing that from now on.

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    I guess that book would be written by someone who calls everyone who they disagree with a “right-wing extremist”.

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        No, they’re all violently discussing things, terribly defending your rights of saying your mind and defending more of those horrible things like stable families, no concentration of power and you having the control of your money instead of giving it all to the government in taxes. Meanwhile leftists are peacefully burning stuff, lovely degrading others’ properties and making those magical explicit parades in public. No, only lefties are good. Right bad.