• BigFig@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    91
    arrow-down
    46
    ·
    1 year ago

    I don’t see any of you kids hosting your own instance and taking on the legal liability for yourselves. Just shit posting and bitching

    • frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      59
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      legal liability

      You register at the DMCA website and respond timely to DMCA requests, while doing a decent enough job moderating.

      That’s literally it.

      • a guy hosting his own instance
      • MakeItCount@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        15
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        Isn’t the issue lies on the fact that you cannot moderate what’s posted on other instances but you have to store everything because you’re federated ?

        • frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          No, you have full control over what shows up on your instance and moderation actions are federated. So actions taken by admins and mods of the original instance federate to me, meaning I really don’t have to do much work on my side. I think I’ve only had to take a few actions myself since starting my instance. I don’t know if my mod actions are federated back to the original instance, but as it’s not hosted by me, I don’t care much.

          • ramble81@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            12
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            1 year ago

            actions… federate to me, meaning I don’t really have to do much work on my side

            And then

            I don’t know if my mod actions are federated back… I don’t care much

            Catch the dissonance there?

            • frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              5
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              … No? I know for a fact mod actions federate to me because I can see them in the mod log and in the interface. I can see which posts and comments were removed and which users were banned.

              Edit: If you’re implying there’s dissonance between me caring about mod actions federating to me, but not caring that my mod actions may or may not federate out, the difference is that I’m not hosting any communities. I have a tiny, inactive, special topic community, and support and announcement communities. If I was hosting a big, active community, obviously I would care a lot more about moderation federation.

        • Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          11
          ·
          1 year ago

          For some reason I thought that my instance isn’t making a copy of everything from other servers. I’m probably wrong, but I thought that pictures and things like that aren’t hosted locally and are only called when the front-end asks for it from other servers right?

    • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      15
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      1 year ago

      You can criticize actions without being in the same exact position. Your argument is like saying “if you dont own your own social network you can criticize twitter/facebook/reddit”

    • Snipe_AT@lemmy.atay.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      18
      ·
      1 year ago

      I’m deathly afraid of the second part of that, I don’t want to deal with the wrong thing being posted by someone else on my server. :(

    • WtfEvenIsExistence3️@reddthat.comOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      38
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      Oh do I have to explain the meme? 🤦‍♂️

      spoiler

      lemmy.world has been down very frequently, possibly due to DDoS attacks, and when a site that’s using Cloudflare is down, it displays a code 522 (sometimes it’s a 502, 503 or some variation).

      Yesterday, (or the day before, honestly can’t remember) lemmy.world blocked piracy communities at the request of one user (who appears to be some far-right asshole), so many pirates are going to be cheering at lemmy.world’s frequent downtime.

      Reminder: Although copyright infringement is unlawful in many countries, discussion of copyright infringement is usually considered protected free speech in many countries, so piracy communities are technically legal, as long as they don’t link directly to piracy content.

      • SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        1 year ago

        pirates are going to be cheering at lemmy.world’s frequent downtime.

        They must be children if they can’t understand that Lemmy can’t afford to take on the movie industry in court.

          • Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            They’re volunteers running the instance personally, not a corporation with a legal team who can advise them how to best handle piracy related communities without being sued. Especially since their instance has to cache content from instances they federate with, it’s hard to blame them for being overly cautious with piracy communities on instances out of their control to avoid being sued by litigation happy media corporations