cross-posted from: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/59066615
China has imposed a range of sweeping new rules restricting travel in and out of the country in a move that observers say will give the government even more control over its citizens.
Citizens deemed to have “harmed” China’s national security or interests while overseas can also be barred from leaving China for up to three years.
But the law also says that it will apply to anyone considered a threat to the country’s industrial or technological security.
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Under the new rules, border officials are now also required to advise Chinese nationals against travelling to countries and regions deemed “high-risk”.
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But even prior to the rules being announced, some people were already restricted from going to certain countries. Civil servants were among the earliest groups subjected to these controls, which later expanded to include state-owned enterprise employees and ordinary citizens.
A retired grassroots civil servant in Anhui told BBC Chinese that around 2018, his workplace made employees surrender their passports. His passport remains in the custody of his former employer even though he retired last year.
According to the ex-civil servant, employees had to apply and explain their reasons for overseas travel, and not all requests were approved.
For example, trips to visit relatives were more likely to be approved than tourism trips, he said.
“It is mainly to prevent corrupt officials from fleeing or transferring assets abroad,” he said. “For more senior officials, it may also be intended to prevent the disclosure of state secrets.”
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A man identified by his pseudonym, Xiao Wang, who works at a state-owned financial institution in Beijing, told BBC Chinese that his fellow employees have long been required to surrender their passports and get approval for overseas travel.
The 32-year-old said managers have verbally reminded staff that “sensitive countries such as Japan are definitely off-limits”.
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The rules could also affect citizens who work in areas such as human rights, say analysts.
“This is another tool designed to control what Chinese citizens do and say overseas,” said Professor Tom Kellogg, Executive Director of the Center for Asian Law at Georgetown University.
“In some cases, in order to prevent individuals from criticising the Chinese government overseas or to punish their rights advocacy activities, state security authorities directly refuse to issue passports.”
One 26-year-old Chinese citizen, who wished to be identified only as Pipi, told BBC Chinese that his passport application in 2023 was rejected and he believes it was because he attended the massive pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong in 2019.
According to Pipi, he was interviewed by Hong Kong media outlets during the protests. When he returned to mainland China, he was questioned by state security police.
He said one immigration official told him that he could not get a passport “because of the Hong Kong issue” – but this was not confirmed in writing to him.
“I don’t know whether I’ll ever be able to leave [China],” he said.
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I’m surprised this news even made it beyond the voluptuous borders of the great firewall…
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I have friends in China, of whom I talk to.
So yeah, it’s a shitty wall.
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Information is lost in translation. For instance, my sense of humour I attempted to instill in an honest observation.
*I was gonna also include a joke about Mongolians breaching said wall, which I am now doing in an edit.
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Both. The purpose of different languages is to be obscure. The purpose of a wall is to protect.
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China’s definitely having a moment in the sun right now because of their diverse manufacturing base but I wonder if their government will be able to transition to a democratic one.
Peering into the near future will they be able to solve their youth unemployment issue or will they just crack down on dissent? Having an educated, disaffected generation doesn’t bode well.
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Tell that to the Uyghurs
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Everyone knows you heffalump for the CCP Cowbee
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I hope one day you find yourself in a re-education camp and when you do, think of me and all the shit you shilled 🫶
They think they’ll be the ones re-educating. It’s why they support their flavor of fascism, they’re just upset they didn’t get to shoot the victims.
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Whilst i’m open to different perspectives, broadening the definition of democracy diminishes what it is at its core.
You’ve also linked an image that has no source with a bunch of red and green squares which means very little to me.
I find it very strange that people exist that need to shill for China when the country can defend itself.
We can have a balanced discussion but if it’s one-dimensional (eg. spruiking Leninism) then I don’t really want to hear it. Honestly because it’s just boring.
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honestly mate not going to yuck someone’s yum but you’re taking me back to the days I would skip the lecture and go to the uni bar instead.
I guarantee that the Chinese citizens working as slaves on fishing trawlers off the coast of Peru who haven’t seen land for months (possibly years) aren’t thinking that China is all too democratic.
my advice - take it or leave it - books are great, reading is great but experience life rather than expressing just pure definitions. No matter was ‘ism’ you align with there’s always a trade-off.
Maybe you’ll understand this and maybe you won’t, that’s up to you.
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my dude you have a lot to learn about life.
and yes they’re slaves. maybe you should find out what china’s been doing off the coast of south america for years at the edge of international waters.
I have very good feeling that if you’re not a bot you’re an extremely robotic individual.
Karl Marx is dead bro. Find your own life,
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[…] but I wonder if their government will be able to transition to a democratic one.
Why would they do so? The current oligarchy is profiting from the way the government is now (central control, cronyism from top to bottom):
[…] whatever Xi Jinping and CPC propaganda teams may say about “common prosperity,” “Marxism,” “socialism”, “communism”, blah blah blah … the fact is that communist China is an oligarchy and a plutocracy like the U.S. or most capitalist countries.
https://worldaffairs.blog/2021/10/08/how-corruption-and-oligarchy-work-in-china/
[…] will they be able to solve their youth unemployment issue or will they just crack down on dissent?
Let’s ask the people of Hong Kong:
There have been numerous instances where officers have been accused of abusing protesters after they had been subdued, and the police have either denied or been provocative in their responses.[3][72] Riot police officers have been seen in online videos surrounding subdued protesters, kicking, punching, or clubbing them, to be stopped only by residents or by colleagues.[73][74] Another common technique is kneeling on the necks of protesters to subdue them;[75] or banging demonstrator’s heads to the ground, causing further injury;[76][77] stomping on the heads of subdued protesters during arrests are commonplace.[78] Police also often dragged already subdued protesters along the ground – a tactic defended by the claim that they had been “uncooperative”.[79]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_misconduct_allegations_during_the_2019–2020_Hong_Kong_protests
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Have you now found a fabricated data pretending that “wages for working people have skyrocketed” in China? The most important thing in your comment is that you share an image, but not the link.
To help you out:
Between the 1980s and to the mid-2020s,
- the bottom-50%'s share of China’s wealth has decreased from 16% to 6%
- the bottom-50%'s share of China’s income has decreased from 25% to 13%
In the same period,
- the top-1%'s share of China’s wealth has increased from 15% to more than 30%
- the top-1% share of China’s income has increased from 6% to 16%
China’s richest 10% now own almost 70% of the countries wealth, and they earn 44% of the income.
Inequality levels in China are equal to those in the United States in the meantime.
In European countries and other democracies like Australia, New Zealand, and Canada, the inequality is much lower.
You can look up the data here.
The situation in China gets worse, as the county’s gig economy nears half the workforce while worker protections lag behind. There is ample evidence for that.
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It is intensely dishonest to frame me as a liar
It’s a living 🤷
Not only is it abundantly clear when reading the speeches of CPC leaders like Xi Jinping that Marxism-Leninism plays a central role in how the CPC operates
True. No billionaire or dictator has ever lied. Not just never most of the time, but never every time. Never in the history of the universe.
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Chinese billionaires working for the state good! Marx said so!! The state will wither away after another billionaire!
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The Chinese police overseas service stations are there to watch Chinese citizens and report violations back to the government, they are not there to help tourists that is what consulates are for.
Maybe we should all get a tattoo with a QR code. Why do passports need to be like a little book? Why not a card that is more convenient. An plantable chip lol… So very not lol. I hope we don’t end up with a tattoo or chip like that nazis did.
