A familiar horror reached Pooja Kanda first on social media: There had been a sword attack in London. And then Kanda, who was home alone at the time, saw a detail she dreaded and knew all too well.

A man with a sword had killed a 14-year-old boy who was walking to school. Two years ago, her 16-year-old son, Ronan, was killed by two sword-wielding schoolmates while walking to a neighbor’s to borrow a PlayStation controller.

“It took me back,” Kanda, who lives near Birmingham, said about Daniel Anjorin’s April 30 killing in an attack in London’s Hainault district that also wounded four people. “It’s painful to see that this has happened all over again.”

In parts of the world that ban or strictly regulate gun ownership, including Britain and much of the rest of Europe, knives and other types of blades are often the weapons of choice used in crimes. Many end up in the hands of children, as they can be cheap and easy to get.

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    In parts of the world that ban or strictly regulate gun ownership, including Britain and much of the rest of Europe, knives and other types of blades are often the weapons of choice used in crimes. Many end up in the hands of children, as they can be cheap and easy to get.

    Before people come in and use this as an argument against gun control, these attacks kill far fewer people per attack.

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      The homicide rate in the US is about 6-7 times that in the UK per 100,000 population. I’d take our situation any day of the week.

      Last time I looked into this properly, knife crime in the US was actually roughly the same frequency as that in the UK. The difference is that knife-based murders stand out in the UK, whereas in the US nobody pays attention because the problem is dwarfed by the much greater problem of rampant gun crime.

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        But if the rate of knife attacks are currently the same, then logically it would make sense that knife attack rate would be much greater in the US than UK if guns were to be banned because some percentage of the current gun crime rate would convert to knife crimes. I guess the US is just a more violent place in general.

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          Just turn on the tele. In Europe there is a shocking amount of nudity to an American, and in America there is a disturbing amount of violence to a European.

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              My point is, you don’t even need to look up the stats to see that it is true, just turn on the TV. Entertainment and media is a reflection of culture.

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        The mass stabbing in Australia the other week had a victim count that wouldn’t even make national news in America, but in Australia it was so bad that the pope commented

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        The fun thing about the US is that the people opposed to dealing with the symptom are also usually opposed to dealing with the disease.

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          Right? I’ve long said that Democrats should just pivot and say, “Okay you don’t want to work on getting guns out of the hands of criminals? Okay whatever. You agree part of this is a result of mental health? Okay, then let’s pass Universal healthcare with guaranteed access to therapy and more.”

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        Last I checked, physicians must treat both symptoms and diseases simultaneously. E.g., the Shock. The bleeding. The excess fever.

        Similarly there’s no reason both cannot be tackled simultaneously here as well; for the root cause is often far more difficult to address than treating symptoms.

        So yes, address the root causes such as:

        • Reducing societal stress (reduce work weak, lower socioeconomic inequality)
        • Expand and improve baseline education levels
        • Provide Universal healthcare with free access to mental health including therapy.

        … But also address the symptoms, which means that when someone does inevitably fall through the cracks, they’re not given free and easy access to gun that is lethally more effective than a knife.

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        You might not have noticed, but I am a moderator. If I wanted to silence you, I certainly could. I do not use that power to do so just because I disagree with someone. You are free to disagree with me and anyone else in this community as long as you follow the community rules.

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          Your first thought was to head off an argument against your train of thought, you don’t need your mod powers to do what I described. I do appreciate you having more restraint than more than one Reddit mod I’ve encountered thoigh

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            Of course I would need mod powers to silence you. I have no other way of silencing you. Your replying to me proves that. You’re not a victim. Your voice is as heard as everyone else’s here.

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              I didn’t mean physically silence, more rhetorically silence them by assuming an argument before you were ever engaged, it comes across as an attempt to restrict discourse. If that was not your intent I apologize

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                That is not rhetorical silence either.

                Silence may become an effective rhetorical practice when people choose to be silent for a specific purpose.[3] It has not merely been recognized as a theory but also as a phenomenon with practical advantages. When silence becomes rhetorical, it is intentional since it reflects a meaning. Rhetorical silence targets an audience rather than the rhetorician.[4]

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silence

                Assuming an argument someone is going to make in no way silences anyone. Especially when I didn’t specify who I was talking to. All you had to say was, “I don’t agree.” Instead, you decided to point fingers and make this personal by saying:

                When you are done tripping over yourself to silence those you disagree with

                Notice that the multiple other people who replied to me both did not make a personal attack and did not feel silenced, and if you want to apologize for something, apologize for that.

                Furthermore, while I do not moderate discussions I am involved with, personal attacks are against community rules, so I hope you don’t think this is something you can normally get away with.

                We could have had a legitimate discussion, but you decided to come in feeling like this was personal. I have no interest in discussing anything with you now.