Yeah that song was always awful (albeit creative) but it’s more about being inflammatory than actually racist. It’s funny that france acuses argentinians of being racist. In case you didn’t know, they still have colonies and charge absurd taxes to former colonies, as well as being very racist themselves. Heck they even depicted a black MP as a “slave”. It seems that the only place they like seeing black people is on the pitch.
Yes, I know. Argentina was down for a very long time. The 2022 world cup is pretty much the only good thing that happened to them in the last 40 years. Trying to diminish it would be cruel. So yes, Spaniards will say they envy you but they are just being nice.
3 world cup finals out of the last 4, 2 copa america and a finalissima. Sure, that was the only good thing. Lol. Tell me your envious without telling me you’re envious.
You see… other countries don’t just have football. We have growing economies, scientific achievements, cultural achievements and politicians that are not an international embarrassment. Argentina was in constant crisis for decades, had 200% inflation, growing crime and corruption. So no, people don’t really think of Argentina with envy. Personally, I’m glad they have football to help them get through tough times but that’s because I have some friends form Argentina and I visited it couple of years ago. Most people don’t think about it at all.
So do we. There’s a reason the last wave of immigration, from Spain no less, to Argentina was just two generations ago. Heck even now there are 544 thousand spaniards living in argentina.
Each time you get a vaccine remember that the syringe was invented in Argentina. If you or anyone you know needs to get a heart bypass? You guessed it, Argentina. Each time you use a pen? Also Argentina. Our current scientists are also top notch. Just to name an example, Celeste Saulo, Secretary-General of the World Meteorological Organization. Most nobel prizes in south america? Also argentina, with 5 of them.
Are current times complicated? Yes. Will we get up? Yes, we always do.
A single match does not define your national team. Although it’s normal to have such a short memory being a spanish supporter. You were only just born in 2010 after all xD
3 Euros and 2 World Cups in the 21st century. I’m OK with that, especially given that Spain hasn’t been accused of match fixing in 1978 in home soil, scoring with a handball in 1986 (la mano de dios), or drugging a rival in 1990 (el agua bendita).
But I guess that enshrining those moments is also part of Argentinians being “passionate”.
Argentina won a World Cup in 2024 with a loss and two draws, probably the worst results of a champion in the modern era. They won two copa America during a time when the whole continent hadn’t won’t a single World Cup in 20 years. The only good player they have will retire this coming year, and I’m sure as fuck they won’t win another World Cup until 2050.
So, thanks, but I’d take Spain recent successes instead.
How could they be accused of anything if they were footballistically born in 2010? XD their accomplishments can’t be denied though. They’re a very good team and I never said otherwise.
The 1978 match fixing is a popular accusation. Alas, an accusation with no proof. You’re free to believe it’s true, if that makes you feel better. Even though la mano de dios in 1986 happened, it happened to a country that had very recently commited war crimes and invaded argentinian soil. Sorry for celebrating it. Maybe spain sympathizes with other colonizers, I don’t. 1990 is also a popular story with no actual proof. Keep accusing of random stuff if you want, it’s pretty amusing.
Argentina won a World Cup in 2024 with a loss and two draws, probably the worst results of a champion in the modern era.
Is it? I thought winning the cup was the best possible result.
If we’re playing that game, when Spain won in 2010, they scored 8 goals. That’s the fewest ever for a champion. On the other hand, Argentina scored 15 in 2022 (2nd highest in world cup history).
They won two copa America during a time when the whole continent hadn’t won’t a single World Cup in 20 years.
What a stupid thing to say xD that doesn’t mean that it’s easy to do. Also, 20 years is 5 world cups. Do you really think that’s a meaningful metric? It’s also wrong. When Argentina won the cup in 2024, there was a country in the continent that had won the world cup. I think you can guess who.
The only good player they have will retire this coming year
Saying that messi is the “only” good player is being either blind or just ignorant.
I’m sure as fuck they won’t win another World Cup until 2050.
That’s pathetic. But alright, stay in your bubble.
Scoring with the hand? It’s fine because England whooped your asses in the Falklands war. Political interference to win a match in your own country? Fine too, Videla seeing the Peruvian team before the match, and granting Peru thousands of tons in international aid a week later, is not basis for any sort of misconduct. Drugging rivals? That’s OK even when Maradona joked about it on live TV in the early 2000s.
If we’re playing that game, when Spain won in 2010, they scored 8 goals. That’s the fewest ever for a champion. On the other hand, Argentina scored 15 in 2022 (2nd highest in world cup history).
Winning is about scoring one more goal than your opponent. Nobody cares when a team scores two if the opponent scored three.
Maybe you’re playing a different game?
What a stupid thing to say xD that doesn’t mean that it’s easy to do.
It definitely does. Copa America is easier to win than the Euros, even more so if we take into consideration that South America hasn’t had four teams in the top 20 FIFA rankings in maybe thirty years now.
What I’m saying here is that, for all your claims that Spain is a newcomer with no actual tradition winning championships, then I’d argue that Argentina is a has-been that has recently been enjoying an exceptionally lenient treatment by FIFA, and an abnormal cycle of low competitiveness by other South American teams.
Do Uruguayans go around saying “cuantas copas tenés” too? No, maybe because they understand the concept of time.
Saying that messi is the “only” good player is being either blind or just ignorant.
Your next best player IMO (Fernández) is an idiot and I don’t see how his antics are helping his case at all. Alvarez is nowhere close. And then you have like three other players who will be under 30 for the next World Cup, and, to be honest, other than Nico Paz the rest are kind of shit, with Simeone probably being the worst case of nepotism ever seen in the history of World Cups.
Then, the whole Argentinian defence will retire in the next four years, but, honestly, that may even be a good thing.
Bro the highest quality league is the spanish one. Barca and Real Madrid alone dominate football.
The Argentinian league might as well be called “boca v river” and one of them even got relegated a few years ago
EDIT : The reason Messi became huge was literally because Barcelona moved him out of fucking Rosario. They couldn’t even get him the medicine he needed for his growth
The problem wasn’t getting it, it was paying. Messi would’ve been messi regardless of where he went. Glad it was barcelona though. It’s a great club and I never criticized it. Nor did I criticize or talk abount any league of any kind. But hey, if you want to keep crying about random stuff no one said go ahead.
Do keep in mind though, Barcelona is in Catalunya.
The problem wasn’t getting it, it was paying. Messi would’ve been messi regardless of where he went.
Che si Messi no recibio las hormonas de crecer cuando era chico, seria el Enano de Rosario (Como el enano de Boca), no el proximo Pele.
The problem wasn’t getting it, it was paying.
The economic situation in argentina is so shit that people aren’t getting the medical care they need. Admit it man.
Nor did I criticize or talk abount any league of any kind.
It was directed at the spanish football team which basically has no history at all before 2010.
How has the team which feeds off the academies of Real Madrid, Barcelona and others like, Atletico Bilabo, who are one of the few xenophobic regions that turn that xenophobia into results for their region, a country which has no football history?
Do keep in mind though, Barcelona is in Catalunya.
I just checked, and, yes , it turns out Catalonia is a region of spain. Maybe you’re confusing portugal with Catalonia? That’s why CR7 is not part of the spanish squad, but various catalonians, argonians, galicians, and yes, basque players are part of the spanish squad, and they got there through the rich history of football the country has.
I think that’s called “envy”. But sure dude, whatever you say.
I don’t think Spain is envious
Of argentinian passion? Yes. They have literally told me more than a few times.
Are they in the room with us?
We’re not in a room so I guess the answer is no?
Ah, fun at parties I see. Not the world cup parties, tho, those are in Madrid.
Sick burn (? What can you expect from fans that have 2 songs:
Classic hits. Rolls right off the tongue.
Argentinians are way more creative https://www.lanacion.com.ar/deportes/video-completo-el-repudiable-canto-racista-de-enzo-fernandez-que-desato-el-enojo-de-francia-nid17072024/
Yeah that song was always awful (albeit creative) but it’s more about being inflammatory than actually racist. It’s funny that france acuses argentinians of being racist. In case you didn’t know, they still have colonies and charge absurd taxes to former colonies, as well as being very racist themselves. Heck they even depicted a black MP as a “slave”. It seems that the only place they like seeing black people is on the pitch.
Viva la España? Huh?
lol
They were just being nice. No need to kick someone when they are down.
This has happened multiple times throughout the years, not yesterday. It’s simply a reality.
Yes, I know. Argentina was down for a very long time. The 2022 world cup is pretty much the only good thing that happened to them in the last 40 years. Trying to diminish it would be cruel. So yes, Spaniards will say they envy you but they are just being nice.
3 world cup finals out of the last 4, 2 copa america and a finalissima. Sure, that was the only good thing. Lol. Tell me your envious without telling me you’re envious.
You see… other countries don’t just have football. We have growing economies, scientific achievements, cultural achievements and politicians that are not an international embarrassment. Argentina was in constant crisis for decades, had 200% inflation, growing crime and corruption. So no, people don’t really think of Argentina with envy. Personally, I’m glad they have football to help them get through tough times but that’s because I have some friends form Argentina and I visited it couple of years ago. Most people don’t think about it at all.
So do we. There’s a reason the last wave of immigration, from Spain no less, to Argentina was just two generations ago. Heck even now there are 544 thousand spaniards living in argentina.
Each time you get a vaccine remember that the syringe was invented in Argentina. If you or anyone you know needs to get a heart bypass? You guessed it, Argentina. Each time you use a pen? Also Argentina. Our current scientists are also top notch. Just to name an example, Celeste Saulo, Secretary-General of the World Meteorological Organization. Most nobel prizes in south america? Also argentina, with 5 of them.
Are current times complicated? Yes. Will we get up? Yes, we always do.
Vamos Argentina carajo ✊
Pero cuántas copas tenés?
Well, we still have one more than spain 😎 As well as decades more of football history.
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0 shots on goal in 120 minutes is hard to be envious about.
A single match does not define your national team. Although it’s normal to have such a short memory being a spanish supporter. You were only just born in 2010 after all xD
I’m neither a Spanish supporter, nor born in the 2000s.
I wasn’t talking about your literal birth date. It was directed at the spanish football team which basically has no history at all before 2010.
3 Euros and 2 World Cups in the 21st century. I’m OK with that, especially given that Spain hasn’t been accused of match fixing in 1978 in home soil, scoring with a handball in 1986 (la mano de dios), or drugging a rival in 1990 (el agua bendita).
But I guess that enshrining those moments is also part of Argentinians being “passionate”.
Argentina won a World Cup in 2024 with a loss and two draws, probably the worst results of a champion in the modern era. They won two copa America during a time when the whole continent hadn’t won’t a single World Cup in 20 years. The only good player they have will retire this coming year, and I’m sure as fuck they won’t win another World Cup until 2050.
So, thanks, but I’d take Spain recent successes instead.
How could they be accused of anything if they were footballistically born in 2010? XD their accomplishments can’t be denied though. They’re a very good team and I never said otherwise.
The 1978 match fixing is a popular accusation. Alas, an accusation with no proof. You’re free to believe it’s true, if that makes you feel better. Even though la mano de dios in 1986 happened, it happened to a country that had very recently commited war crimes and invaded argentinian soil. Sorry for celebrating it. Maybe spain sympathizes with other colonizers, I don’t. 1990 is also a popular story with no actual proof. Keep accusing of random stuff if you want, it’s pretty amusing.
Is it? I thought winning the cup was the best possible result.
If we’re playing that game, when Spain won in 2010, they scored 8 goals. That’s the fewest ever for a champion. On the other hand, Argentina scored 15 in 2022 (2nd highest in world cup history).
What a stupid thing to say xD that doesn’t mean that it’s easy to do. Also, 20 years is 5 world cups. Do you really think that’s a meaningful metric? It’s also wrong. When Argentina won the cup in 2024, there was a country in the continent that had won the world cup. I think you can guess who.
Saying that messi is the “only” good player is being either blind or just ignorant.
Here’s to hoping you’re wrong 🤞
That’s pathetic. But alright, stay in your bubble.
Scoring with the hand? It’s fine because England whooped your asses in the Falklands war. Political interference to win a match in your own country? Fine too, Videla seeing the Peruvian team before the match, and granting Peru thousands of tons in international aid a week later, is not basis for any sort of misconduct. Drugging rivals? That’s OK even when Maradona joked about it on live TV in the early 2000s.
Winning is about scoring one more goal than your opponent. Nobody cares when a team scores two if the opponent scored three.
Maybe you’re playing a different game?
It definitely does. Copa America is easier to win than the Euros, even more so if we take into consideration that South America hasn’t had four teams in the top 20 FIFA rankings in maybe thirty years now.
What I’m saying here is that, for all your claims that Spain is a newcomer with no actual tradition winning championships, then I’d argue that Argentina is a has-been that has recently been enjoying an exceptionally lenient treatment by FIFA, and an abnormal cycle of low competitiveness by other South American teams.
Do Uruguayans go around saying “cuantas copas tenés” too? No, maybe because they understand the concept of time.
Your next best player IMO (Fernández) is an idiot and I don’t see how his antics are helping his case at all. Alvarez is nowhere close. And then you have like three other players who will be under 30 for the next World Cup, and, to be honest, other than Nico Paz the rest are kind of shit, with Simeone probably being the worst case of nepotism ever seen in the history of World Cups.
Then, the whole Argentinian defence will retire in the next four years, but, honestly, that may even be a good thing.
Anyway, enjoy your country’s past accolades.
First, Spain (and I’m not reading this ridiculous wall of text).
Second, Argentina.
Third, England.
Fourth, France.
Fifth, my country’s “past accolade” was 2 years ago. Which is the least amount of time possible after losing the world cup.
Bro the highest quality league is the spanish one. Barca and Real Madrid alone dominate football.
The Argentinian league might as well be called “boca v river” and one of them even got relegated a few years ago
EDIT : The reason Messi became huge was literally because Barcelona moved him out of fucking Rosario. They couldn’t even get him the medicine he needed for his growth
The problem wasn’t getting it, it was paying. Messi would’ve been messi regardless of where he went. Glad it was barcelona though. It’s a great club and I never criticized it. Nor did I criticize or talk abount any league of any kind. But hey, if you want to keep crying about random stuff no one said go ahead.
Do keep in mind though, Barcelona is in Catalunya.
Che si Messi no recibio las hormonas de crecer cuando era chico, seria el Enano de Rosario (Como el enano de Boca), no el proximo Pele.
The economic situation in argentina is so shit that people aren’t getting the medical care they need. Admit it man.
How has the team which feeds off the academies of Real Madrid, Barcelona and others like, Atletico Bilabo, who are one of the few xenophobic regions that turn that xenophobia into results for their region, a country which has no football history?
I just checked, and, yes , it turns out Catalonia is a region of spain. Maybe you’re confusing portugal with Catalonia? That’s why CR7 is not part of the spanish squad, but various catalonians, argonians, galicians, and yes, basque players are part of the spanish squad, and they got there through the rich history of football the country has.
calling a simple match to the final of the world cup…
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