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      Islam actually. It’s not a dogmatic religion like Christianity and it relies on more solid proofs than Christianity.

      Edit: I knew once I named the religion people would start throwing insults. That wasn’t the point, the religion has some actual scientific and philosophical proofs and does NOT require you to “just believe in something we can’t see.”

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        No it doesn’t they come from the same Abrahamic source, your fairytale is no more real than theirs.

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          Read what I said again more carefully. Islam doesn’t rely on the same proofs of Christianity or Judaism even though they have overlapping beliefs. My religion does not require you to believe a man died and came back to life, but instead points to observable scientific and philosophical truths as its basis.

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            “observable scientific and philosophical truths” cannot point to an existence of any sort of higher power, by the very definition of a higher power. All you can do is believe in a higher power, all religion is dogma.

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              That’s not at all true by definition, and you’re embracing a Christian mindset if you think that way. Other religions don’t ask you to turn off your brain and embrace dogma. Literally every aspect of Islam is up for debate and relies on reasoning and evidence to back it up.

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        It’s not a dogmatic religion like Christianity and it relies on more solid proofs than Christianity.

        Oof.

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          That’s a lame attempt at a cheap shot. I’m talking about how the Quran actually lays out scientific and philosophical arguments for the existence of God. You bringing up something unrelated doesn’t invalidate that. Grow up, troll.

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            There are no scientific arguments for the existence of god. Science requires evidence, religion requires faith. Religious people assume that scientific questions that we can’t answer are evidence of the hand of god, but they are in fact only evidence that we have more to learn about the universe.

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              Again, you’re talking about religion when you only mean Christianity. Islam has evidence, unlike other religions, and unlike Christianity there is no conflict between science and Islam.

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                You have yet to name one piece of Islam’s so-called evidence. Some of the greatest minds in history have tried and failed to prove the existence of god. I will await for you to enlighten us. By all means, please share.

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                  Some of the greatest minds in history have proved the existence of God, but atheists immediately dismiss them because they don’t agree with the conclusion. This is an old rehashed argument, even when atheists become convinced of religion the other atheists retrospectively try to invalidate them. I could show you a long list of evidence but if you don’t have an open mind to actually read it and instead pre-dismiss me before I even post it then I’m just wasting my time. Peace.

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                    You’re telling me you have incontrovertible evidence of god’s existence and won’t share it because you assume I will reject it. That’s fucking lazy

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          Sharpshooter fallacy time: remember only the statements that can be twisted to be sorta true in some contexts. Forget the ones about magic humans splitting planetary bodies in half because they support a counter to your hypothesis.