• Atomic@sh.itjust.works
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        8 months ago

        No. You can serve without being controlled. And you can be controlled without serving.

        The waitress is serving me but they’re not being controlled. It’s something they choose to do.

        And you can be controlled in what you say and so, without serving. E.g. a prisoner.

        So no. They’re not the same.

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          8 months ago

          that is meaningless semantics. both words have multiple meanings, when i said politicians serve corporations i meant that they are ultimately subservient to them because they get paid by them and their live style is contingent on this servitude and that is a system of control in this context both words refer to the same thing.

          in the example of the waitress she is being controlled when u call them or tell them to get u a certain food u are controlling their actions control doesn’t have to be absolute and it doent have to be forced.

          a better example would be a social worker who helps people aka serves them but does not respond to them and are not controlled by the people they serve.

          in the example of a prisoner there is control but no servitude sure, but it is trivial to think of an example where there is control and servitude like a serf, u know cuz world have different meaning and all.

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            8 months ago

            Yes. Well done. Words does have different meanings. Some idiot previously said “its the same thing.”

            Which is why I made the comment that they are not. The same thing. Glad you agree.

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              8 months ago

              the only idiot here is… both of us cuz this is pointless and meaningless. but u are double the idiot, they are the same in the context i used them did u forget ur own comment that i was responding to do u not know what context is, is ur mind so small u can only keep in memory the last 3 comment in a thread and not 1 more.

              either way ill move myself towards less idiocy so this is the last reply u are getting end of conversation.

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                8 months ago

                The context is not that complicated. But im not the one who thinks serving and controlling are the same thing. You can be controlled and serve at the same time. But that doesn’t make them the same thing. Not even in context, especially not in context.

                The fact you can’t even discern between the two while trying to make a point is dissapointing.