• ShustOne@lemmy.one
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    1 year ago

    For me the meme is that most of these are the very tip of the philosophy and thinking iceberg. And that’s fine. What’s not fine is taking those basic concepts and trying to use them as defeaters for everything. I think this is what it’s poking fun at.

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      1 year ago

      Exactly. It’s taking the piss out off wannabe “deep thinkers” who’ve speed ran philosophy 101 videos on Youtube. Being well read isn’t the joke. The joke is the neckbeards who have to smugly let everyone know that they read a Wikipedia article.

      Ironically, this stereotype probably fits most of the ones who are kicking off. Hell, it’s essentially a profile of me. 10 years ago I was that guy saying “hey have you heard about iambic pentameter?”. That’s why I laughed so hard lmao

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        1 year ago

        Being that kind of person isn’t bad or a negative though, and framing being confident in having knowledge as a negative is what drives tyranny, discourages education and critical thinking, enables propaganda to be so effective, and destroys society.

        That guy smugly bragging about reading a Wiki article could have legitimately never crossed it before and was genuinely excited in it for the sake of it, and here you are destroying legitimate intellectual curiosity just because society told you that was a no-no. Who’s really more shameful?

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          1 year ago

          You’re taking this way too personally lol

          Being intelligent isn’t the joke. It’s putting on the facade of being well read that so many nerdy 20 somethings do.

          Society isnt saying don’t be smart. It’s saying be less of a sweaty douchebag. You can be nerdy and fun to be around. It’s not mutually exclusive.

          If my comment destroys your intellectual curiosity, then you never had any.

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            1 year ago

            But it is about being intelligent, because people who use those terms are using them in earnest, you just accuse them of trying to sound smart because you want to silence them and make them feel bad for challenging or correcting you, and it works.

            People like you destroy intellectual curiosity by doing that all the time, and not just to me. I’ve had to fight to regain what little I was able to, because of people like you. Anti-intellectualism is NOT okay. It is very much its own kind of bigotry, and extremely dangerous.

            Society absolutely does tell people not to be smart and it does so largely through people like you. The only way nerdy people are fun to be around to you is when they don’t show it, or only enough to benefit you and certainly never to expose the fact that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

            And I’m tired of it. I’m tired of having to walk on eggshells around people like you, shut the fuck up and deal with it when you’re told with evidence you’re wrong.

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              1 year ago

              It’s own form of bigotry haha! My sides… Yep, that’s right. You’re the most oppressed. Right up there with gamers and Christians.

              Okay mate, I’m gonna leave you be before you burst a blood vessel.

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              There’s nothing wrong with being smart. It’s the smugness that is annoying and that’s what this whole thing is about.

              If you aren’t one of those people than that’s great and you shouldn’t be bullied.

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                The fact that the smugness, i.e., the confidence smart people display is annoying IS fundamentally thr problem. Smart people are allowed to be confident, to be smug, to be arrogant like everybody else, and that doesn’t just go away because it makes stupid smug people feel bad about themselves or inferior.

                And ALL intelligent people are falsely framed in this light, because the truth is that other people feeling inferior or jealous of them is all this is fundamentally about, and that is wrong.

                Stop telling intelligent people they can’t have positive self-esteem. I will NOT walk on eggshells around you anymore. I will not change who and what I am to spare your feelings. No intelligent person should have to.

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                  1 year ago

                  All this over a meme…

                  You might be booksmart, not that you’re demonstrating it here, but you certainly have the emotional intelligence of a toddler. If you need to walk on eggshells around people, it would be because you’re a vapid bellend and they’re sick of your attitude.

                  The way you judge “everybody else” as stupid, as if intelligence is a good way to determine the value of a person, is frankly disgusting. It shows your contempt for other people.

                  If everywhere you go smells like shit, check your shoes. Now go do some deep thinking about that.

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        1 year ago

        You’re just projecting onto an image that has two people you’re “supposed to dislike” and a bunch of words