I’m gonna catch hate for this, but I don’t care. I have a thing that physically looks awful, but also seems conceptually awful.
Sometimes, if I have the money and I wanna get a little treat, I’ll buy a block of cheese, Nutella, and bread, and make a Nutella and cheese sandwich. I do not know why or how I got to the point where I ate it, but I did and I love it.
Usually, I’d get like a pecorino romano cheese, cut a couple slices of dark (full grain) bread, and just paste it in place with Nutella, and that would be a little desert for me. If I have a lot of cheese on there, I might add raspberry jam (not too much or it gets waaaaay too sweet).
I’m having a bit of trouble understanding what it’s saying about how bad it is, but I get the impression less is just better always? Either way, though, you can for sure swap out Nutella with anything else vaguely in the same ballpark. What makes the sandwich so good is the cheese and vaguely chocolate flavor. If you do try something else out and decide it’s good, please let me know!
That’s where I followed on as well, but it kept seeming like I was finding mixed results on the articles. I don’t know enough about which studies are funded by which groups, and I’m pretty sure I’m finding biased stuff. It’s okay, though, I’m not asking you to look things up for me, I just was curious if you had some kind of insight into the industry or not.
I think if you drill down a bit past the first paragraph citing uncertainty, you’ll find there’s a pretty consistent body of scientific findings naming various ill-health effects. Maybe follow up on those specific studies, supplementing with ScienceDaily and PubMed material as needed?
I’m not a nutritionist, and haven’t spent much time myself researching palm oil studies, but I can tell you as someone who’s tried to keep abreast of nutritional news for decades, so far I’ve only seen negative findings upon palm oil, both as a food and as an ecological agent of destruction.
I think that perhaps unrefined palm oil is not as bad, but it is bright red and has a strong flavour. Industrially refined any sort of seed oil is best avoided.
My first thought was the only way this could be good is with sharp parmesan. Pecarino will do better. I’d probably smash this, but it sounds better on crackers.
You know, it had never occured to me to do cheese and nutella, but that actually does sound like exactly the kind of snack that hits a wide range of flavor notes, that I would make.
Like, I’ve done something kind of comparable, maybe:
An everything bagel, toasted, cream cheese, strawberry jam.
Most people would probably do that on a plain bagel, and find the salty and oniony/garlicy bits and such to be nonconformant with the rest of it being basically smooth and sweet… but i like the whole package of flavors approach, as long as they’re well balanced.
I do PB and cheese sometimes; it’s awesome. Not a big fan of Nutella, but I imagine it’s the same kind of combo with the sweet and savory mix. Sometimes I’ll add a piece of salami into the mix also, but it’s fine without it, too.
Though, in my opinion, if you want a home run quick sandwich, make a PB&J but then butter the outside and cook it like a grilled cheese. To die for.
Imo honey works better with cheese. Also can handle some added sausage, as suggested by another commenter — though I prefer parboiled sausage like hotdogs rather than that with globs of fat.
I’m gonna catch hate for this, but I don’t care. I have a thing that physically looks awful, but also seems conceptually awful.
Sometimes, if I have the money and I wanna get a little treat, I’ll buy a block of cheese, Nutella, and bread, and make a Nutella and cheese sandwich. I do not know why or how I got to the point where I ate it, but I did and I love it.
Usually, I’d get like a pecorino romano cheese, cut a couple slices of dark (full grain) bread, and just paste it in place with Nutella, and that would be a little desert for me. If I have a lot of cheese on there, I might add raspberry jam (not too much or it gets waaaaay too sweet).
Are you, by chance, a rat who controls a French man and helps him with cooking?
If the position’s open, I’m there! But alas, I am a rat for free at this time. :3
I’m sure there’s a French man to be ridden and controlled around here somewhere.
Nutella is swimming in palm oil IIRC. Maybe a cocoa-based version could work?
Is palm oil bad?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_oil#Nutrition,_composition_and_health
I’m having a bit of trouble understanding what it’s saying about how bad it is, but I get the impression less is just better always? Either way, though, you can for sure swap out Nutella with anything else vaguely in the same ballpark. What makes the sandwich so good is the cheese and vaguely chocolate flavor. If you do try something else out and decide it’s good, please let me know!
I got plenty of results with:
https://www.google.com/search?q=healthy+nutella+alternative
That’s where I followed on as well, but it kept seeming like I was finding mixed results on the articles. I don’t know enough about which studies are funded by which groups, and I’m pretty sure I’m finding biased stuff. It’s okay, though, I’m not asking you to look things up for me, I just was curious if you had some kind of insight into the industry or not.
I think if you drill down a bit past the first paragraph citing uncertainty, you’ll find there’s a pretty consistent body of scientific findings naming various ill-health effects. Maybe follow up on those specific studies, supplementing with ScienceDaily and PubMed material as needed?
I’m not a nutritionist, and haven’t spent much time myself researching palm oil studies, but I can tell you as someone who’s tried to keep abreast of nutritional news for decades, so far I’ve only seen negative findings upon palm oil, both as a food and as an ecological agent of destruction.
I think that perhaps unrefined palm oil is not as bad, but it is bright red and has a strong flavour. Industrially refined any sort of seed oil is best avoided.
I don’t know, I think the problem was in ethical issues about how it is cultivated.
It’s got plenty of health issues, too, as per the WP link above.
WordPress?
Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_oil#Nutrition,_composition_and_health
It also tastes crap in chocolate, but it is cheaper
It’s a cheap and tasteless alternative to cocoa butter, it’s used in shit tier chocolate.
Maybe, I would try more hazelnut instead.
I’m not going to hate on this at all. I’d probably eat it myself.
My first thought was the only way this could be good is with sharp parmesan. Pecarino will do better. I’d probably smash this, but it sounds better on crackers.
You know, it had never occured to me to do cheese and nutella, but that actually does sound like exactly the kind of snack that hits a wide range of flavor notes, that I would make.
Like, I’ve done something kind of comparable, maybe:
An everything bagel, toasted, cream cheese, strawberry jam.
Most people would probably do that on a plain bagel, and find the salty and oniony/garlicy bits and such to be nonconformant with the rest of it being basically smooth and sweet… but i like the whole package of flavors approach, as long as they’re well balanced.
I do PB and cheese sometimes; it’s awesome. Not a big fan of Nutella, but I imagine it’s the same kind of combo with the sweet and savory mix. Sometimes I’ll add a piece of salami into the mix also, but it’s fine without it, too.
Though, in my opinion, if you want a home run quick sandwich, make a PB&J but then butter the outside and cook it like a grilled cheese. To die for.
Imo honey works better with cheese. Also can handle some added sausage, as suggested by another commenter — though I prefer parboiled sausage like hotdogs rather than that with globs of fat.