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Some generations—especially late Gen X and early Millennials—are already experiencing worse mortality than those before them

  • Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca
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    6 days ago

    Bet I could tell you without reading the article. Limited access to healthcare, limited access to foods that aren’t processed, limited access to adequate housing, (slums riddled with bugs, pests, and mold is not adequate housing,) not enough free time to devote to exercise, constant stress of being overworked and underpaid.

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    11 days ago

    This seems like a no brainer. If you put healthcare in the hands of for profit companies, they are going to focus on maximizing profit rather than maximizing health.

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      8 days ago

      Even if you do put healthcare on the hands of for-profit, it could work, what with the high demand and hospitals being big players, meaning they have scale, a big prerequisite for lowering price.

      At least for the “common” ailments.

      That being said, there’s no competition, the only true capitalist prerequisite for capitalism working.

      So basically, capitalist healthcare could work, but US healthcare is basically as late-stage as capitalism could get, so alas - no.

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    11 days ago

    Those focusing on medical intervention are missing the point. Like 90% of contributions to lifespans have been from public health, which focuses primarily on primary and (secondary) treatments. Americans as a society are just not healthy, nor are enabled to be healthy.

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      11 days ago

      Great point.

      Healthy food costs a small fortune. Many of us work so much we have no time or energy left for dedicated exercise. It feels like just leaving the house costs money, so people aren’t doing activities that would get them out moving naturally. And socialization and feeling a part of your community, which is super important for mental well-being, is so difficult in today’s world.

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        10 days ago

        you are thinking ORGANIC, non-gmo, all the bs marketing they use for these types food, yea this expensive. otherwise its cheap if dont do organic.

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        10 days ago

        Healthy foods (whole grains, legumes, plants and vegetables, for instance) are the cheapest foods available, pound for pound.

        Bags of beans, lentils, rice? Come on…

        You can usually buy several pound bags of apples for 2-3 bucks. Bananas are always cheap. And on and on and on.

        You know what’s even cheaper? Soil and seed. Life’s a garden, dig it. So many videos on the whatever you watch. Video showing you what you can do with produce scraps that will grow You More produce from those scraps, for instance… You can chop off the head on lettuce and put the little puck at the base in water and it’ll start growing more leaves. Cuttings are a great way to propagate plants. Put in water until it roots then plant them.

        When fresh produce gets expensive (out of season stuff) there’s frozen and canned. But growing your own is as close to free as food gets and probably the most healthy of all.

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          10 days ago

          To be fair, growing your own food costs you a lot of time and is also not for free - you need the space, you need water… It takes a lot of dedication. Buying cheap vegetables, as you mentioned, might be the more viable option.

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            10 days ago

            That’s a little unfair.

            Every element can be sourced for free. And sometimes can be obtained with little time necessary.

            Many municipalities will give free compost occasionally(like in spring!) You just have to drive there and often bag it yourself. So compost for the cost of just the bags or truck bed… I mean come on… But muh time! Some even have a limited number of free bags. Some have loaders for trailers. Ymmv!

            Many places have seed giveaways. Many places have people/orgs that put out free plants(similar to free/little libraries). If you know someone with plants ask for a cutting, they’ll probably be happy to provide. Water often works alone but there’s root stimulant that’s not expensive.

            You can do all kinds of home made containers. Coffee cans or milk jugs. 5 gal buckets with holes drilled in the bottle (not too many!) handle is great for tomatoes! You could literally use a plastic shopping bag. Or the ground. Or hydro - some hydro can be just as cheap as soil, but probably better results.

            To cut down on soil expense, if you buy, there’s various filler materials you may want to consider. One of my favorites is sticks and leaves and needles and mulch(free). They break down over time providing nutrients.

            If you see your neighbor having their trees chopped down go ask them for the mulch or wood chippings.

            There’s even vertical farming. Space smace!

            Even your piss and shit can be used as fertilizer and compost. Now we getting real.

            There’s just so many free inputs. Growing plants is fun. If it costs you time, then reap what you sow, and if you do a good job you will have positive return on investment.

            Grow some plants my friend.

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              9 days ago

              I do grow plants both at home and at work, I know exactly what I’m talking about :) At home it costs me more than in shop (mostly watering and some materials), so it’s more about being a nice hobby and it feels great to have some produce of my own. I also don’t have much space - not everyone can have a garden. I do compost - no feces though, omg, that must take some know-how to make it safe when it’s human and on small scale. Time is a big limiting factor - I do have a job and a family. Anyway, I love my plants and I’d also recommend growing some, at least to those who have the space and time :)

              • fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world
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                9 days ago

                To be safe feces need to be hot composted. And you need to wait a good year or two before they’re safe. But dang! We’re talking hundreds of pounds of compost yearly… With the right amount of saw dust they don’t smell too bad.

                Then you usually make like a box. Insulated with hay/grasses or whatever. And oh boy. That compost will get hotter than you want a steak to get!

                “Costs you time” just seems like a negative way to look at it. I would love to have more time gardening!

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                  9 days ago

                  Me too, but it’s not the only thing in life I like doing. I’d love to have more time to spend with my family, more time to do music, to do hikes in nature, more time to devote to theatre, to play with my cats, to learn languages, to do sports, more time to meet my friends and other nice people, more time to learn math, physics, anthropology and etymology… I don’t have it. I have some limited time that I can give to gardening and very limited space (a large balcony).

                  I’d love to live several lives, alas, I have just this one and have to divide my time and prioritize. If you’ve seen Everything everywhere all at once - that’s a film that resonated with me greatly.

  • The Velour Fog @lemmy.world
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    11 days ago

    Because even with the scam that is employer-provided health insurance, people who live paycheck to paycheck are more likely to stay home and wait out an illness or malady rather than risk getting billed an unreasonable amount for medical care that they need.

    Not to mention those who are uninsured, unemployed or underemployed, and faces or will eventually face decades of medical debt if anything goes wrong. The stress of all that eats at you.

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      10 days ago

      because insurance have put convoluted policies in places to discourage the Customer from using insurance. like what they or not cover, or meeting a bs deductible or OOP, depending on the plan. this ensures that the companies get a steady stream of revenue without having to actually pay for the customers healthcare.

      • The Velour Fog @lemmy.world
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        10 days ago

        Exactly what I’m dealing with having UHC. Have to fight them tooth and nail for everything. They make it as difficult as possible by design.

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    11 days ago

    I’m 60 (first year Gen X) and for the past 16 years I’ve placed diet and exercise at the top of my list of priorities for me. It’s made a world of difference.

    Also, I’ve never drank, used recreational drugs, or smoked anything.

    Everyone knows what they should do, they just don’t want to.

    Yes, it’s healthcare, too, but if you don’t take care of yourself first, there’s not much a doctor can do.

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    9 days ago

    Lack of healthcare and a system that rewards the pedofile class for making the working class sick

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    11 days ago

    Baby Boomers born between 1950 and 1959 mark a turning point.

    My unresearched guess is that we got an effort to stop infant and childhood death with penicillin and other medical inventions. That would have upped their mortality and then as they got older newer ways to die was increased. This first generation is dying so we are still figuring out what is a proper average lifespan. It might just be a statistic thing.

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    11 days ago

    I don’t understand this obsession with living a long life. Why would anybody want to work until they’re 80 when dying at 60 is an option?

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        9 days ago

        Man, I’m mid-40s and not particularly thrilled by the concept this could only be mid-journey. I’m down to stick around so long as I can contribute something to my community, not in the capitalist sense but the social sense. At the point my existence is a drain on resources and I’m living just because I can… fuck that.

    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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      9 days ago

      You are making a point, even though you don’t understand it.

      Reaching a number at death is a poor measure of human health. Who wants to live an extra ten years in bed in a nursing home? Those places are horrific.