• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Yeah, because cops from other continents, such as North America, would famously NEVER be needlessly violent towards black people… 🙄

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      7 months ago

      Well the thing is, this isn’t just a thing in Spain, or just a thing in Germany, or just a thing in France, or just a thin in Italy, or Croatio, or Hungary, or Austria, the Netherlands, or Belgium or Poland…

      It is a specifically european problem in the context of the EU, as opposed to just a problem in a single member state.

      That doesn’t deny that it is also a problem on other continents.

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        7 months ago

        I would say police brutality does not really knows border, a truly international habit. And actually Europe, at least some places are rather less into it than it’s the case around the world.

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      7 months ago

      “But what about the Americans” is literally the weakest argument in this context.

      Police violence against minorities is happening right now in our cities. It’s not just an American problem, despite what you might think if your watch the news.

      That is why I said, this is Europe.

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        7 months ago

        “But what about the Americans” is literally the weakest argument in this context.

        In most contexts it would be a whataboutism, yes, but not this specific one.

        Your comment consisted only of characterizing it as a specifically European problem, which my reply is a valid refutation of.

        Police violence against minorities is happening right now in our cities. It’s not just an American problem

        Nobody’s claiming otherwise.

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          7 months ago

          Your comment consisted only of characterizing it as a specifically European problem

          No I did not.

          Should I have said “this is Europe too”?

          Let me guess, you think I should also say “black lives matter too”?

          Your transparent and instrumental deliberate misinterpretation of my words is your concern, not mine.

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            7 months ago

            “This happens in all of Europe, not just Spain” would have been better, if that’s what you meant to say.

            Your transparent and instrumental deliberate misinterpretation of my words is your concern, not mine.

            I’m not a mind reader. I replied to the most likely intended meaning based on the words used. If you wanted to say something else, you should have used other words.

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                  7 months ago

                  Listen. I’m going to explain it to you like you are five.

                  “This is America” is a phrase often used to lament police misconduct in the US. By adapting it I explicitly referenced US police misconduct, thereby saying “we have this problem too”. Only if you are ignorant or in bad faith could you interpret this explicit reference to the African American struggle against police violence as “this happens only in Europe”.

                  If there are mistaken assumptions they are yours and yours alone.

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                    7 months ago

                    That’s a hell of a lot to expect people to infer from 3 words, especially when the phase you’re adapting IS specifically about it being especially bad in America compared to everywhere else, which it is.

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                    7 months ago

                    Upvote for explaining the reference. But to expect the average reader to know that is a bit far stretched.