Again, in making such decisions, all we can judge by is the evidence in front of our eyes. I observe:
Liberal parties currently in power in Anglo countries are offering no meaningful resistance to Israel. None have stopped weapons shipments.
There is broad refusal among the Democratic centrists, who Kamala is a firm member, to endorse Mamdani, primarily due to his stance on Israel.
A continuation among Democratic party leaders to hold the line on Israel. Congressional Democrats haven’t used what limited leverage they do have to slow the flow of weapons to Israel at all.
A complete silence on Kamala since the election on the Israel issue. She’s still a very influential voice in the party, and she still has political aspirations. She now doesn’t even have the Biden admin keeping her on a short leash.
I am a scientist. I try to make judgments based on what I can directly observe. The default stance of centrist Democrats and of every liberal government in the Anglosphere has been continued unconditional support of Israel, even to today. And since Kamala hasn’t stated anything to the contrary, the median observable behavior of politicians like herself is the best predictor we have of how she would have behaved as president. If you take a dispassionate evidence-based view of the issue, it’s pretty clear that there would be no difference in the Gaza outcome between Kamala and Trump. Their policies are both 100% full support of the Israeli regime. Trump is just a lot more crass and cruel about it. Kamala virtue signals, Trump vice signals. But in terms of actual policy outcomes, their Israel policies are identical.
Completely ignoring the UN voting numerous times to hold Israel accountable and the US being the only one to block the vote. And the EU sanctioning. And France, Germany, the Netherlands, etc with their stances against Israel. Kinda seems like you’re just looking for reasons. Literally here’s an article from today. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/07/31/senate-democrats-vote-block-israel-arms-sales/
“If you take a dispassionate view” you’d stop ignoring the evidence that there is a difference between the two. I’m guessing you didn’t vote for Kamala and you’re looking for justification to make your reasoning less ethically dubious.
Edit: I’ve read your other comments in this thread and according to you the last statement I made is incorrect so please do explain the reasoning here. You’re either not paying attention to what’s actually happening, you haven’t fully thought about the situation, or you didn’t bother to research before making your comments.
Again, in making such decisions, all we can judge by is the evidence in front of our eyes. I observe:
Liberal parties currently in power in Anglo countries are offering no meaningful resistance to Israel. None have stopped weapons shipments.
There is broad refusal among the Democratic centrists, who Kamala is a firm member, to endorse Mamdani, primarily due to his stance on Israel.
A continuation among Democratic party leaders to hold the line on Israel. Congressional Democrats haven’t used what limited leverage they do have to slow the flow of weapons to Israel at all.
A complete silence on Kamala since the election on the Israel issue. She’s still a very influential voice in the party, and she still has political aspirations. She now doesn’t even have the Biden admin keeping her on a short leash.
I am a scientist. I try to make judgments based on what I can directly observe. The default stance of centrist Democrats and of every liberal government in the Anglosphere has been continued unconditional support of Israel, even to today. And since Kamala hasn’t stated anything to the contrary, the median observable behavior of politicians like herself is the best predictor we have of how she would have behaved as president. If you take a dispassionate evidence-based view of the issue, it’s pretty clear that there would be no difference in the Gaza outcome between Kamala and Trump. Their policies are both 100% full support of the Israeli regime. Trump is just a lot more crass and cruel about it. Kamala virtue signals, Trump vice signals. But in terms of actual policy outcomes, their Israel policies are identical.
Completely ignoring the UN voting numerous times to hold Israel accountable and the US being the only one to block the vote. And the EU sanctioning. And France, Germany, the Netherlands, etc with their stances against Israel. Kinda seems like you’re just looking for reasons. Literally here’s an article from today. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/07/31/senate-democrats-vote-block-israel-arms-sales/
From a few months ago. https://www.axios.com/2025/04/03/senate-democrats-cancel-military-aid-israel
https://www.timesofisrael.com/over-half-of-us-senate-democrats-back-failed-measures-to-block-arms-sales-to-israel/
“If you take a dispassionate view” you’d stop ignoring the evidence that there is a difference between the two. I’m guessing you didn’t vote for Kamala and you’re looking for justification to make your reasoning less ethically dubious.
Edit: I’ve read your other comments in this thread and according to you the last statement I made is incorrect so please do explain the reasoning here. You’re either not paying attention to what’s actually happening, you haven’t fully thought about the situation, or you didn’t bother to research before making your comments.
I am all for the scientific method, but do you really think Biden or Harris would have done this? What does your evidence tell you?
“Trump administration will withhold disaster aid from states and cities that boycott Israel” https://lemmy.world/post/33962769