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I’m not really talking about belief so much as the fact that people need nourishment in unmeasurable ways: love, wonder, etc. I don’t think it makes sense to exclude that from spirituality. I have found that ‘spirituality = supernatural’ is unnecessarily reductive.
But, at the end of the day it’s just individual perspective as to what constitutes the spiritual.
You assume I mean spirits that physically exist separately from people. I do not. You have missed my point entirely.
Even the simple question of what the experience of color is like is totally beyond empiricism.
Not everything has a scientific answer, and that’s ok.
Correlating brain activity to thoughts is not the same as being able to distill love or emotional experience down to objective understanding. The difference is spiritual experience.
Oxytocin is a part of how people experience love, but it will never be possible to objectively assess whether someone is experiencing love by measuring it or any other physical quantity.
We can measure the wavelength of light and track how it stimulates cone cells and the brain, but we will never be able to measure the spiritual experience of color.
It is science that will always be chasing the ‘gaps’ in measuring spiritual experience. No matter how closely we can measure ourselves physically, the actual spiritual experience will always transcend it.
Trying even to describe spirituality at all is difficult because it’s an inherently nebulous thing. It can only be known, never proven.
I like that more behaves like cat when there’s less than a page of output rather than requiring you to press
q
to get back to the prompt even when it would just fit.There’s probably a way to make less do that too, but more already does it without configuration. Overall I use less most of the time but I like having the option.
zagaberoo@beehaw.orgto Archaeology@mander.xyz•Over 3,000 years ago the Assyrians developed a remarkably advanced underwater technique, as illustrated in this ancient relief. It shows Assyrian soldiers using goatskin bags filled with air to breathEnglish20·2 months agoTo push the absurd narrative that these were essentially scuba tanks for underwater swimming and not flotation devices.
Not going to get many clicks with a real image.
zagaberoo@beehaw.orgto Archaeology@mander.xyz•Over 3,000 years ago the Assyrians developed a remarkably advanced underwater technique, as illustrated in this ancient relief. It shows Assyrian soldiers using goatskin bags filled with air to breathEnglish6·2 months agoPlus, have people never tried to push floaties or balloons underwater? It’s not even a matter of strength, you can’t really fight buoyancy. Even a large heavy adult would only be able to force a very small air bladder under long enough to actually swim.
Spirituality itself, as with anything spiritual, is a know-it-when-you-see-it kind of thing. But that’s an unsatisfying answer.
I do think ‘the opposite of empirical’ is a decent shorthand. The less a truth can be objectively defined, and the less consistent the nature of a truth is across different people, the more spiritual it is.
Enjoyment of music and wonder in the face of nature / the cosmos are two more spiritual truths I think most people know.
Of course, but from my perspective you almost certainly do need spiritual nourishment of your own, given my broader concept of the spiritual. Purely a matter of perspective.
Which is all to say when someone like me says people can’t live without spirituality, it doesn’t necessarily imply that they feel everyone needs to believe in some kind of supernatural power.
I think it depends on how you frame ‘spirituality’. Love for example can never be meaningfully measured empirically, it’s a spiritual truth. You just know it. It cannot be reliably be proven or disproven, especially across different people.
I don’t think the line between ‘I truly believe in love’ and ‘I truly believe in god’ is as crisp as people would like to believe. That’s not at all to say they’re the same thing, but they’re more similar than a lot of people want to accept.
If you aren’t cringing at your past at all, then you aren’t growing.
zagaberoo@beehaw.orgto Linux@programming.dev•Lenovo Cuts the Windows Tax and offers Cheaper Laptops with Linux Pre-installed2·2 months agoWell, these services do require money to run. If everyone were as ‘clever’ as you are then we’d have little content indeed.
I’m not complaining; I’m clarifying for less informed readers. It’s a subtle and often misleading distinction.
Calling a license that leads to more proprietary software “even more open source” is absolutely debatable. The only extra restriction is disallowing free software becoming proprietary, which promotes more openness overall.
You’re not wrong by any means, but people should understand the actual tradeoff when considering licenses.
zagaberoo@beehaw.orgto Linux@lemmy.ml•Ubuntu Will Replace GNU Core Utilities With Rust13·4 months agoMore open strictly in that it allows free software to be rolled up into proprietary software.
A friend gave me the 6-CD “power pack” of Mandrake 10 that could install a quite wide range of optional software completely offline. Hooked me too.
zagaberoo@beehaw.orgto Linux@lemmy.ml•Can we please, PLEASE for gods sake just all agree that arch is not and will never be a good beginner distro no matter how many times you fork it?2·5 months agoThat does sound like a bit much for my daily driver; I’ll have to check it out in a VM sometime. It warms my heart that a distro community can have such longevity, and I think the simplicity has to be a big part of that.
zagaberoo@beehaw.orgto Linux@lemmy.ml•Can we please, PLEASE for gods sake just all agree that arch is not and will never be a good beginner distro no matter how many times you fork it?1·5 months agoIsn’t the lack of dependency management a huge pain on Slackware? I think Gentoo is my forever distro, but I’m very curious about Slackware.
‘Thy’ is the disused informal ‘your’. There’s ‘thou’/‘thee’ but that’s still second-person.
VPN, as it is sold by YT sponsorships, is a scam.
Still extremely customizable, and peerless rolling release features.
You can mix and match stable and bleeding edge packages very easily and switch at any time.
When packages make breaking changes, Gentoo will warn you and guide you through the migration before you update and only if you have the affected package installed.