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  • dartos@reddthat.comtoMemes@lemmy.mlEvery day, EVERY - DAY
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    1 year ago

    You didn’t present any ideas or solutions to argue against. There’s no argument happening here.

    Nor are there strawmen because there’s no argument being made.

    You said that there’s generally a lack of imagination with regards to this stuff and I was just sharing my opinions as to why.


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    I think most people (correctly imo) don’t see how a large enough company can operate without some hierarchy, which seems to run up against the idea of being entirely equally employee owned.

    There’s always going to be leaders (manager or just someone who others listen to) That person necessarily has more responsibility and control than his peers and is justly compensated more (otherwise nobody would put in extra work, say, to train as an engineer or doctor)

    That person has their own interests that don’t always line up with the company and may use their influence to guide the company in a way that benefits them.

    Suddenly you have a worker class and a bourgeois-esque class.

    Most people (incorrectly imo) think that the “unbiased” checks and balances in government counteract that.

    If there’s another option that accounts for hierarchies in large employee owned and operated companies let me know…. please

    EDIT: large as in number of employees












  • Oracle is like Apple but for b2b. Everything is vendor lock in and very expensive. They don’t treat their employees particularly well. They don’t like adhering or supporting standards.

    I remember a quote once that being evil was actually their business model.

    Truth be told they’re probably just as evil as anywhere else, they’re just very loud about it.