Wayland breaks everything is right in the title. Did you even look into the link before you accuse ME of propaganda? I did not poison the well and left my opinion out. The article IS anti Wayland, and that is not my opinion and does not reflect my opinion. You should stop right there.
You’re just anti-X11.
The author is anti Wayland
The authors’ point of view does not matter. You’ve poisoned the well by presenting the data collected as potentially “tainted” by a bias that, even if true, does not change the data presented.
So yes - clearly and very obviously poisoning the well. Textbook really.
Why don’t you do that?
The link you provided actually did that. But they are “anti-wayland”…
Edit: and I’ll push back hard on the “anti-wayland” language as well. This is propaganda-style speech. People can “not like things” and disagree. But labeling somebody “anti-x” diminishes their opinions and ideas.
“I like pancakes”
Internet morons: “Oh so you hate waffles and anyone who eats them???”
Wayland doesn’t plan on changing anything about this issue.
This seems to be a common pattern with the Wayland team. They seem very focused on some technical ideology for how “things should work” to the point of ignoring or dismissing real-world issues.
Perhaps in another 20 years they’ll get around to addressing it.
Think twice before abandoning X11. Wayland breaks everything! is more of an anti Wayland posting, but its good to have a view from all angles. So I post it here.
I like how you slightly poison the well there ("more of an anti Wayland posting) rather than pointing out that Wayland has very real problems even after >10 years of development.
I’d take a single file config. It’s cleaner and easier to see what’s going on.
You may not need an additional package, but often they’re convenient.
What happens when you reboot?
What problem is this solving? It’s expensive to launch, hard to power, hard to cool, and unserviceable.
Also - no mention of the speed running Kessler syndrome?
May as well just pin this story.
They don’t ‘hide’ them, they literally have a big banner across the chart telling users that ‘this chart is without inflation, scroll over for one with inflation’.
Sorry - what word would you use for “not visible” then? I didn’t say they weren’t available. They are… hidden.
I don’t know why you’re moaning here about it anyway
Because it calls into question the competence and motivation of the people who produced the charts.
Militaries are famously secretive.
Nope.
They do show them.
They hide them as secondary images. There is literally no reason to show unadjusted numbers for this.
Neat. Doesn’t refute what I said.
However, even at a glance you can quite easily see there’s a sudden jump well beyond inflation
I know - I can see too. But you show historic prices graphs adjusted for inflation.
It’s true taking inflation into account would be useful.
Not useful - the proper way to do it.
But it doesn’t really matter
Yes it does. There’s literally no reason to not just show the adjusted for inflation graphs.
I feel like rewriting a GPL thing based on the GPL version should require the GPL licence. After all, you’ve built something on top of GPL code which means it’s also GPL right?
No. Not even a little. It’s a copyright, not a patent.
Showing graphs not adjusted for inflation by default is disingenuous.
I very clearly attacked your argument (not you) as “Poisoning the Well”. Sounds like you’re not familiar with logical fallacies, I highly recommend reading up on them.
Yes - that was me doing to you what you did to the author to show by example. You took that as an insult which is why I say calling the author of that article “anti-wayland” is well-poisoning. You’ve set the tone that the article is not to be taken seriously because of a perceived bias on the part of the author. You “besmirched” their reputation to, by association, attack the argument. This is practically the definition of Poisoning the Well.
Yes - that was the fallacy. The “well-poisoning” if you will. If you simply said “Here is an article that points out some of the problems with Wayland” or something to that effect I wouldn’t have taken any issue.