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What basis do you have for presuming his incompetence?

The fact that he was unsupervised in public tells me he should be assumed to understand the concepts of right and wrong.

He doomed himself. I don’t owe him a thing. If I owe anyone anything, it is his victim, not him. If I do owe his victim, locking up his killer for the rest of his life would be my pathway toward redemption.

I commented on it, but I never accepted your premise that saving lives counts toward redemption. The reason why is simple: Whatever future potential you envision this kid having, you must also give to the kid he killed. Balancing the number of potential future lives the murderer saves vs the same number of potential lives lost by killing his victim, this kid is always going to be one life short of redemption.

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Forgot to comment on this earlier:

Throw away the keys and you worsen the odds.

No, by locking him up forever, you greatly improve the odds that he won’t kill again. He is free to explore the development of his personality within the context of having his behavior directly supervised for the rest of his life.

They definitely don’t want those troops coming back home and talking about their time in the west.

In other words, he has a right to work towards redemption.

He can study necromancy for the rest of his life, and attempt to raise his victim from the grave. That’s his right. If he accomplishes it, we can talk about clemency.

His right to seek redemption isn’t being infringed upon by locking him up permanently. It is the permanence of the death he caused that is denying him redemption.

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You are not including the “cost” of recidivism.

If he kills again after you release him, you have to include that “cost” on top of everything you spent to try to bring him back into society. Even if you get the recidivism rate down to an extraordinary 1%, 1% of the value of an innocent life is worth more than the costs of caging a hundred murderers for the rest of their lives.

When you include the typical risks of recidivism, the cost of rehabilitation greatly exceeds that of permanent incarceration.

He might save a life that, in prison or dead, he could not have saved. He might save twenty, even a million.

Sure. He might save more lives than anyone who has ever existed. The chances of that happening are as good as winning the lottery, but hey, it could happen.

He might also take another life. Or twenty. Or a million. The chances of that are substantially higher: far more people lose the lottery than win anything at all.

The lottery is a tax on people who are bad at math. The best approach to playing the lottery is to lock up the money you would have used, and never let it out to buy a ticket.

The “other” in this case being the predator who deliberately and maliciously inserted his knife blade into a human body for the express purpose of destroying that human.

It’s not psychopathic behavior to decide that such a person constitutes a threat, and should be separated from society by any necessary means available.

The worst thing that can possibly happen is they reform their lives and some kid decides they are worthy of emulation.

No, the best thing they can do for society is remain locked up for the rest of their lives.

The point is that despite murder being a horrific crime, as a society, we have moved past defining people as singularly evil for all killings.

We have not, and we should never move “past” that position.

To the extent that they understand not to pull of shit like stabbing people, at least.

Your standards suck. Get some better ones.

My decision to give or withhold a second chance for this kid is irrelevant.

He can try as hard as he wants to dig redemption out of his victim’s grave, but it’s simply not possible. Unless you’re alleging this kid is some kind of necromancer, he is fundamentally incapable of redemption.

Save the pshrinks for kids who can be saved.

Honestly, this is probably the best news that the Korean Peninsula has had in 70 years. Anything to start dragging the hermit kingdom out of its cave isn’t entirely bad news.

A youth justice system is for dealing with kids and teens who shoplift, or break noise ordinances, or run away from home, or abuse illicit substances, or any number of “boundary exploring” behaviors.

A youth justice system is not the appropriate venue for dealing with “kids” so lacking in moral fiber as to deliberately and maliciously kill another person.

The tolerance we have for “youthful indiscretion” does not and should not extend to this degree of violence. A youth justice system is not an appropriate venue for those determined to be fundamentally irredeemable.

They do, but “rightsholders” suck harder. And the tech companies oppose the measures the rightsholders are pushing them to adopt.

Here, the enemy of my enemy may not be my friend, but they aren’t my enemy.

You don’t need your birth certificate or social security card. They are easy to replace. A birth certificate is a public record: you can order it from whatever government agency handles vital records in the county of your birth.

Social security card is marginally more difficult, but if you know the number, it is surprisingly easy. Just go down to the nearest social security office with your story, and they’ll get it sent to you.

You can only do it like 6 times in your life, but you rarely need the card itself anymore.

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Dance halls and hotels don’t have “safe harbor” provisions as a matter of law, and their services to performers are not deemed a “human right”.