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  • I live in a region that’s been a melting pot for quite some time now

    If you’re in Europe, I’d wager that your country has a thriving right wing movement that has seen increased support over the last 10 years, and that they gained that support at least partially by promising to stop immigration or deport immigrants. Otherwise, well, there’s too little information here for me to say anything.

    That’s not rooted in objective reality or facts.

    It’s objective truth that a significant fraction of any population is deeply xenophobic and doesn’t view these things as you do. I’m making a claim about the human psyche, not ethnic differences, so you’re not really refuting my point.



  • I can imagine like 20-30% of racists around, or people who’ve been fooled by some charismatic character. But not half.

    You have too much faith in humanity. A smart-sounding Greek guy or another said that democracy is only possible with a homogenous population, otherwise the country will tear itself apart. I don’t agree with that conclusion, but the process they described is true, in both Europe and America. The way I see it, America has been ethnically diverse for a lot longer so they’re closer to or at the peak of the allergy-like reaction you witness in an ethnically diverse democracy. Meanwhile Europe only started feeling it recently because of Middle Eastern immigration, and it’s looking like that. Europe will in all likelihood go down a worse version of the same trajectory we’ve seen unfold in America.
















  • You’re trying to make them sound racist but that’s really not it. Russia has never been a democracy. They don’t have the culture build by more than a century of democratic rule like America, France or Britain. They don’t have the culture that leads to more than a century of democratic rule. You make it seem comical by saying “they’re taught to hate freedom”, but cultures do vary in how predisposed they are to obeying authority or rebelling against it, among a variety of other things. I mean, just take a look at this. See this if you’ve never seen these terms before.

    Anyway what I’m trying to say is that it takes a lot more work and good faith to keep a democracy going in a country like Russia and China than in Western Europe, where people are more used to and comfortable with fighting authority.