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  • Where did I say posts about the middle-east are not allowed here if they are in relation to Europe?

    Literally this whole discussion is happening under the premise that discussion on Palestine is restricted.

    when creating this community there was absolutly no reason to avoid feddit.org as the hosting instance over legal concerns specifically related to the state of Israel.

    Yes, and I’ve stated, if legal concerns are so troubling there needs to be censorship on the topic, moving to a different instance outside of Germany would make more sense, assuming the moderation and administration team cared about the censorship about an ongoing genocide of which multiple European countries’ governments are partaking in. Other large communities have changed instances as well successfully.

    I, and I imagine many others, would have also understood if such restrictions were in place until such a move could occur. Instead, it’s clear the decision was made to defer to an unjust and unethical law.


  • No, since with “black lives matter” (which I think could have used a better name anyway, like Black Lives Also Matter, which has the nice acronym of BLAM), it isn’t the oppressing group.

    In the case with Israel and Palestine, Israel is very very much the oppressive group, currently conducting a genocide, a claim backed by multiple researchers and experts in the field.


  • So does this mean Eurovision discussion isn’t allowed either, since Israel and Australia aren’t in Europe?

    What about the EU? Does everything in the EU count? If so, does that mean South American and Caribbean discussion is allowed because of UK and France for example? Or do you mean only Europe the continent? In that case, are we talking about the 7 continent English model, the 6 continent Greek model, the 6 continent Eastern Europe (/Russian) model, or the geological model? Because some models would include Israel while others would exclude say Azerbaijan.

    If you’re going to start restricting discussion on what is and isn’t, you’ll need to start clarifying what is and isn’t too.


  • The whole post is about how this moderation is happening because of the threat of law, so I’m not sure what you mean by “the legal situation affecting its admins and some of the moderators here”.

    It’s specifically stating that this is happening because of the changed legal situation in Germany.

    Secondly, Europe is closely tied, topic-wise, to Israel. The creation of Israel itself and the conflict occuring there is due to a major war in Europe, and many European countries still do a lot business with Israel. The double standards with how Europe has dealt with Russia versus Israel are glaringly obvious as well. It’s also a political topic in many countries, including as mentioned in the post Germany to the point that there’s now censorship laws affecting speech on the matter.

    To pretend it doesn’t apply because “it’s not in Europe” is extremely disingenuous since plenty of news and topics about other countries outside of Europe that affect Europe are allowed here, such as the US tariffs or China, who are also trading partners.

    If we are to take this comment you made in good faith, then the enforcement would be that only domestic news and topics are allowed strictly, and anything that remotely mentions a different country outside of Europe is not allowed. Not even comparisons.

    But that’s not what’s happening here, and instead only speech about Israel/Palestine is being targeted.


  • If you’re going to act like a standard corporation in terms of what speech is allowed, why should users use this comm over say, reddit, which has the same rules but a MUCH larger community?

    You’ve kinda defeated the purpose of Lemmy by doing this. Corporations forsake ethics for the convenience of law anyway, so from a logical perspective, people might as well use something else.

    You could easily just get new mods who are NOT in Germany if you’re this terrified of legal action, but instead you’ve chosen to follow unjust and unethical laws - no different than Reddit and whatever justification they make up as well.

    By your own logic and stipulations, if Germany is taken over by the AfD in the future as well and they pass racist laws making it illegal to ban anyone using racist language for example, you’ll also comply and allow racist language too. Either because ethics don’t matter to you, or because they align with the law passed. Those are the only two logical conclusions.

    And before you say “well it’s a lot of resources to change things” - it was also a lot of resources to start this whole thing up and grow it in the first place too, yet that didn’t stop you either, did it?





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    They’re not hiding the flags.

    It’s allowed. They’re not hiding it from broadcast either, unlike least year.

    What they did do was change the rules that performers can only have country flags, nothing else, but they don’t have restrictions for the audience this time - that’s why you can see plenty of actually Palestine flags this year in the audience.

    What I’m curious is it they’ll censor audience booing this year.



  • I think it has more to do with the hypocrisy of letting Israel perform. It just pisses off most of their viewership, which are mostly anti genocide.

    The lyrics of a midway song that the hosts sang (“no matter how kind or brutal” or some shit like that) doubles down on the hypocrisy of kicking out Russia but allowing Israel.



  • I (and my actual artist wife, whose opinion on this I value more) view AI image generators as a tool.

    I’d say akin to a camera. Photography is still an art form today, but you see MANY pictures that aren’t art too. Because it’s now accessable and easy to use.

    AI image generators is much the same, in that it’s very accessable, and so you do see a lot of actual slop.

    But I’ve seen some techniques that are either only possible with AI (functional QR code art) or use AI as only part of a process (fractals mixed in with perhaps Photoshop/Krita/Gimp and then hand printed or such).

    Of course most importantly, I think, is that an AI image generator doesn’t stop people from making art. You are free to do draw, make collage, create sculptures, etc. People who use it purely to make a thing they want to see, are nearly always, if not always, people who wouldn’t have wanted to make it themselves in the first place (or can’t). Much like how you might get a craving for a pizza but might just get a cheap frozen one rather than making one yourself from scratch (which can be very expensive too).

    Unlike the example, if you want a picture of a painting, a piece of paper and a free pencil won’t achieve that - you still do need the acrylics (assuming you’re not wanting something that has specific colors outside of acrylic paints like tempera), canvas, a stand, and of course, months to years of skill depending on natural talent. Much like it you want a pizza from true scratch, you need to know not only how to proof dough and bake, but grow wheat, husking and milling it, grow tomatoes, turn milk into cheese, cure meat, etc.

    Or you can but a frozen pizza created by a machine. It won’t be as good, but it’ll be pizza and takes a fraction of the time.

    Oh, and he’s an example of the QR code AI art I mentioned which a human can’t do by hand:


  • But you were talking specifically about a static medium, not video or music, which are not static mediums. We were also discussing image gen AI, not video gen etc.

    Most people also don’t consider video or music edits collage either, and call them something else. Because they use different skills and are different mediums.

    Also, you do realize we’re still talking about current AI generation right? There doesn’t exist an AI that executes processes on it’s own (maybe) yet. So your whole thing wasn’t relevant either, really, in any way more than saying a piece of paper will spontaneously draw something on itself.

    That said, you can, using prompts, training, guidance steps, etc, actually do exactly what you did in a digital format, using a diffusion image generation AI. You can get more specific by using it + Gimp.

    Edit: and I mean, you still are using someone else’s art to create what you made.