Yea, but I guess Europe is in for a rough century squeezed between China and magaism, who are more likely to agree to dismember it than to let it be the halfway point.

It should take them at least as much effort to say what they want to say as it takes to debunk it, so they would have to “escalate” first before I put any effort into a reply and escalate my effort too.

Even if they are both honest, it only works when you agree on the aims each one is trying to reach (and ground rules, those are already in the sidebar). If one is trying to learn something and the other is trying to win the argument or pose for your potential readers…you get a shit debate where no progress is made.

1573rd time elon the unelected oligarch calls a democratically elected leader representative a dictator and remains obediently silent on russia, China, etc. Traitorous moron. He wants to enslave everyone to his ketamine-addled pet projects.

Democracies need to regrow some balls and some teeth to put these dipshits in their place and at the very least tax the shit out of them before they turn every country into a cryptobro fascist wasteland.

hahahaha toldya x50

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I can’t see how it couldn’t make worse the pre-civil war situation the country is in.

Amazing. “Something” is definitely aware of rotation, “fits”/shapes and taking a step back from a local minimum to move forward. Seeing them all done together is even more impressive. What else are “they” aware of and…how many do you need to have this team spatial awareness? 100?

“robbed” as in the IMF went in there and did a harsher and obviously larger scale version of what they demanded in Greece and Portugal. They were expecting a Marshall plan and got shock therapy from disaster capitalists instead. This is not a tankie fantasy, because you see the same type of disaster capitalist vultures constantly flying over Western countries’ heads (and developing countries too) trying to privatize everything and cut back in social assurances

What they gloss over is that this is not western countries “attacking” russia, this is global ultraneoliberals preying on anyone who puts themselves in a dire position of need, like the USSR did after decades of mismanagement, but also like Argentina or the “PIIGS”. Gorby had the right idea, but it was too little too late to avoid putting yourself in the hands of the international banksters.

Without rule of law, you get neither markets nor democracy.

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I’d pretend to be driving an invisible car.

Are there social media hazmat suits to distribute among current allies?

hah, the governor of the US oblast is such a funny guy

I understand, but you have to be extremely specific about how you frame foreign/domestic distinction, because these guys are prying from every angle to turn an open society’s vulnerabilities and contradictions against itself. We need a broad-spectrum solution to this (one is cognitive vaccination through education, but it is too late for adults) and until we do, democracies are going to be on their back foot against the global oligarchy, because offense is much more effective than defense against this.

The specific case you seem to be making is if state actors deliberately aim a campaign at your voters. But what if it is only their multinationals, oligarchs, corruption and dirty money, what if it is interest groups, or what if it is “NGOs”, or “the markets” and hedge funds, or cultural products, or what if it is simply large groups of netizens of a friendly state who talk up a specific candidate?

Maybe it is clear when russia does it, but they fumbled it this time with Romania, because they were so effective that it became obvious. In most cases it will not be this obvious and they will use multiple of the methods described above. All I am saying is that once they get inside voters’ heads, it’s hard to go and say that it is illegitimate because the people were influenced by effective propaganda.

PS: I still am not sure what happened here, there seem to also have been cyberattacks and leaking of credentials to make the election insecure, but the messaging is mixed because in the middle of this there are references to tiktok. I assume it is something similar to voter register data being leaked, which helps laser-target disinformation. I just hope this doesn’t turn against us when we want to vote out someone and can’t because foreign interference made the voters do it.

I haven’t read enough about this, but if this was 1000 accounts convincing a million people to vote for a guy, how is that different from anyone else campaigning? Except if it violates public campaign financing law and you had an unfair advantage from a foreign adversary in what should otherwise be a transparent level playing field…and even then things are never completely level and transparent.

Gender roles are pretty dumb even for people happy living in their birth-assigned gender. But I guess you see it twice as bad²,cause you’ve experienced them from both sides now. Fixing yourself doesn’t fix the world, I guess.

Yea, between the US and NK

“Oupsie”

Brazil has been under a military dictatorship and they remember (until 50 years ago), same for many EU countries. The USian in contrast has no concept of what is at stake until it will be too late.