Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has stated that NATO has no business in Ukraine, as it is not a member of the Alliance, and that his task is to ensure that it remains that way.
This just hands over an EU country to the Russian and Chinese influences, which is why Hungary is where it’s at in the first place.
This is the kind of thing that needs covert counter-ops: undermine and question orban at every online forum, constantly make Putin look bad, push against every single government policy, etc.
So basically what they’re doing to every other western nation.
So basically what they’re doing to every other western nation.
You mean western nations’ government policies are all perfect and people pushing against them are Russian shills? And making their politicians look bad?
Maybe those governments and politicians are Russia-infiltrated, and these complaints are resistance.
You say “maybe” like it’s some unknowable quantity, but we can see what is going on in Hungary and that it’s getting increasingly authoritarian, and we can see Russian attempts to influence western democracies through bot farms and the like. It’s not unknowable; the evidence is there.
This is the sort of stupidification of issues that we see from bot farms: cherry pick one point, then blow it out of proportion so that there’s no more nuance, no more gray, no room for middle ground.
Everything becomes black and white, polarised, simple: with us or against us.
one might think the people of Hungary would feel the same way and would protest accordingly, but so far everyone seems very apathic to the fat autocrat in charge
Orbán does just enough for farmers to keep them voting for him. Keeping Ukraine out of the EU is part of that - if Ukraine were a member, Hungarian wheat prices would plummet.
I don’t think there’s any need to evict it to pressure it to vote the right way.
So Hungary blocking things is a collective performance.
Or maybe not, then the leverage they gain from veto is more than the pressure put at them. In such case that leverage is apparently damn big and they are a small country.
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This just hands over an EU country to the Russian and Chinese influences, which is why Hungary is where it’s at in the first place.
This is the kind of thing that needs covert counter-ops: undermine and question orban at every online forum, constantly make Putin look bad, push against every single government policy, etc.
So basically what they’re doing to every other western nation.
Far too late for that. Orban is a Russian shill and should be treated accordingly.
Few years outside of the EU, with closed borders and no new funds may cause Hungarians to proudly follow Romanian way with Orban ending like Caucescu.
Why are you crossing out China?
Did you miss the massive investments China is doing there, to buy influence?
Here’s one: https://www.businessinsider.com/satellite-photos-show-byds-massive-hungary-factory-taking-shape-2025-4
Because Orban is Putin’s puppet, irrespectively of any Chinese investment.
He who sucketh a dick can accommodate a second one.
Lose one, gain multiple.
It isn’t as big an issue as you make it out to be.
You mean western nations’ government policies are all perfect and people pushing against them are Russian shills? And making their politicians look bad?
Maybe those governments and politicians are Russia-infiltrated, and these complaints are resistance.
You say “maybe” like it’s some unknowable quantity, but we can see what is going on in Hungary and that it’s getting increasingly authoritarian, and we can see Russian attempts to influence western democracies through bot farms and the like. It’s not unknowable; the evidence is there.
This is the sort of stupidification of issues that we see from bot farms: cherry pick one point, then blow it out of proportion so that there’s no more nuance, no more gray, no room for middle ground.
Everything becomes black and white, polarised, simple: with us or against us.
Fucking moron.
You are literally saying “fucking moron” to something you imagined yourself and I didn’t write.
You are right.
Just suspend them until they meet NATO and EU standards again. It would really suck for Hungary and it’s neighbors to fall into full Russian control.
one might think the people of Hungary would feel the same way and would protest accordingly, but so far everyone seems very apathic to the fat autocrat in charge
I think if it comes to that, the Hungarian people will be VERY pissed off.
Honestly they should already be VERY pissed off
Orbán does just enough for farmers to keep them voting for him. Keeping Ukraine out of the EU is part of that - if Ukraine were a member, Hungarian wheat prices would plummet.
It’s so selfish and low…
That’s their problem.
I don’t think there’s any need to evict it to pressure it to vote the right way.
So Hungary blocking things is a collective performance.
Or maybe not, then the leverage they gain from veto is more than the pressure put at them. In such case that leverage is apparently damn big and they are a small country.