I’ve heard the term Punk Vegan, living on white bread, peanut butter and jelly. Problem for many is that those foods which are less healthy are also less expensive. Which leads to people with lower income eating less well, and getting sick as a result. Being poor, in many ways, is more expensive.
Wouldn’t that be a processed grains based diet instead of a plant based diet since it is only including processed grains and excludes all other forms of plants?
Adding ketchup on the bread and drinking fruit juices sweetened with high fructose corn syrup will increase the number of plant sources in such a diet without increasing dietary fiber. My point is, it’s not plant variety that matters, but how heavily processed the plants are.
Idk how popular fruit juices are anymore, everyone buys the “healthier” versions, like growing up id say you’re accurate, just ketchup on bread is not a dish of any kind lol
Since fiber only comes from plants, it’s implied that “low-fiber diet” just means less fiber than what we need. Not necessarily meat without anything else.
One slice of white bread has about 0.5g of fiber. And you are suggesting eating a loaf of white bread a day. Omni Calculator (https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/fiber) suggests for a male who is 5.5 ft, 130 pounds, 30 y.o. should get 29g of fiber - roughly 58 slices. So about 2 loaves of white bread per day would get one in the range for fiber. You are only off by 1/2. Keep trying. You’ll get there.
There are white breads with more than a gram of fiber per slice and 26 slices per loaf and people that need 25grams or less per day.
But that doesn’t matter because according to these definitions of processed vs ultra-processed, you’re describing ultra-processed foods not plant based.
Processed grains are still plant based, so eat lots of white bread.
I’ve heard the term Punk Vegan, living on white bread, peanut butter and jelly. Problem for many is that those foods which are less healthy are also less expensive. Which leads to people with lower income eating less well, and getting sick as a result. Being poor, in many ways, is more expensive.
Wouldn’t that be a processed grains based diet instead of a plant based diet since it is only including processed grains and excludes all other forms of plants?
Why not both?
It seems disingenuous to claim a diet that excludes all plants except for lowest fiber foods is plant based or low fiber.
Especially since you can still get your daily fiber needs from white bread which contradicts the claim.
Adding ketchup on the bread and drinking fruit juices sweetened with high fructose corn syrup will increase the number of plant sources in such a diet without increasing dietary fiber. My point is, it’s not plant variety that matters, but how heavily processed the plants are.
Idk how popular fruit juices are anymore, everyone buys the “healthier” versions, like growing up id say you’re accurate, just ketchup on bread is not a dish of any kind lol
Ketchup, bread and fruit juice all have fiber. So they do in fact increase the dietary fiber.
Whether or not your diet is “low fiber” is decided by how much of these things you eat. If you eat a low quantity your diet will be low in fiber.
I wonder what the “Western Style” diet consists of then, since it so low in fiber.
Animal products would be my guess since they don’t contain any fiber at all.
So just meat without anything else?
Since fiber only comes from plants, it’s implied that “low-fiber diet” just means less fiber than what we need. Not necessarily meat without anything else.
Hey it’s fine, it sounds like your mind is already made up. You shouldn’t worry too much about what random strangers say on the internet either way.
One loaf of white bread has about the daily requirement for fiber.
It’s just less than whole grain bread. So not low fiber.
Hmm, let’s see…
One slice of white bread has about 0.5g of fiber. And you are suggesting eating a loaf of white bread a day. Omni Calculator (https://www.omnicalculator.com/health/fiber) suggests for a male who is 5.5 ft, 130 pounds, 30 y.o. should get 29g of fiber - roughly 58 slices. So about 2 loaves of white bread per day would get one in the range for fiber. You are only off by 1/2. Keep trying. You’ll get there.
There are white breads with more than a gram of fiber per slice and 26 slices per loaf and people that need 25grams or less per day.
But that doesn’t matter because according to these definitions of processed vs ultra-processed, you’re describing ultra-processed foods not plant based.