Summary

Vladimir Putin responded to Ukraine’s US-backed ceasefire proposal by imposing strict conditions, including a halt to Kyiv’s military aid and mobilization, while continuing Russia’s own rearmament.

His calculated stance prolongs negotiations without outright rejecting Donald Trump’s initiative, which seeks to end the war while pressuring Ukraine.

Putin also demands Ukraine’s demilitarization, exclusion from NATO, and recognition of Russian territorial claims.

Trump, with limited leverage, may shift toward aligning with Putin’s terms. Meanwhile, Ukraine fears the ceasefire could allow Russia to regroup and intensify its offensive.

    • NoiseColor @lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Thats completely naive. Reality doesn’t work like memes. People are dying, lives are being destroyed.

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      2 days ago

      Ukraine doesn’t have much a choice because they’re losing the war.

      Part of losing a war is making concessions with the victor. Sorry you’ve been so propagandized to believe that it’s impossible for Ukraine to lose.

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        8 hours ago

        There are concensions and then there’s functionally disarming so you can be attacked even more easily in 5 years.

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          4 hours ago

          What do you mean “more easily attacked”?

          Ukraine losing the war means it’s no longer a sovereign state.

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        8 hours ago

        I’m sorry, but saying that everyone else who doesn’t agree with you is propagandized is at least lazy if not childish and trolling behavior.

        Ukraine is still in it, they are holding of the invading army, which has in the last year only managed to occupy less than a percent of Ukraine and even that has largely stopped. At this rate, if Russia could keep it up, they couldn’t achieve their claimed goals for decades. And there are all the reasons to claim they won’t be able to keep it up.

        There is no sense to give to Russia concessions, the Russians cannot take by force. Usually it’s the other way around.

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          4 hours ago

          You != Everyone else

          Ukraine is still in it, they are holding of the invading army, which has in the last year only managed to occupy less than a percent of Ukraine and even that has largely stopped. At this rate, if Russia could keep it up, they couldn’t achieve their claimed goals for decades. And there are all the reasons to claim they won’t be able to keep it up.

          Yeah, you’ve been propagandized hard.

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                  What dumb game? Where I point out how you fell for propaganda before and then you get mad and say I love putin or something?

                  This just further proves my point about you being propagandized.