• VeganPizza69 Ⓥ@lemmy.vg
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    5 days ago

    “Oops, my foot slipped on the wrong pedal.”

    Intent without confessions and manifestos may not be that easy to prove.

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      5 days ago

      They’re not comparable.

      If I’m at a firing range, where it is expected that people are carrying guns and ammunition, I can pull the same “oops, my finger slipped” excuse.

      Similarly, if I drive my car around the side of your house and into your back yard to run you over, I can’t claim “my foot slipped”.

      Seriously, stop with the mental gymnastics. We don’t need to reach for more reasons to say “fuck cars.” There are plenty within arms reach

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          See, THAT is a reasonable, thoughtful argument. Yes, the density of cars in our cities is dangerous.

          But there is not some epidemic of vehicular murders going unpunished.

          Rather, we have normalized living in a high risk environment. And THAT is the crux of the problem. Not law enforcement

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        Similarly, if I drive my car around the side of your house and into your back yard to run you over, I can’t claim “my foot slipped”.

        I see one of those posts with cars crashed into houses every week somewhere. No murder charge.

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          Perhaps that’s because… There usually aren’t fatalities inside the home???

          Like, not only is it a giant, loud object that can be seen coming in many cases, but the impact with the house exterior dissipates a huge portion of the energy.

          When people get killed my a car, they don’t die from the car hitting them. It’s almost always the impact with the ground that causes severe head trauma. Otherwise it’s a neck or spinal injury.

          Those types of injuries are just way, way less likely to happen when a car drives into a building.

          I’m getting really sick of people around here not showing even a modicum of logical thought and just screeching “CaRs BaD!!” every other sentence.

          Fuck cars, for a lot of reasons. We don’t need to make up new ones that are silly and illogical. We have plenty of really good reasons to say fuck cars that don’t involve bullshit claims re: murder charges or a lack thereof

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            4 days ago

            Hey, remember that story a while back about the rich kid that “accidentally” ran his truck through a pack of cyclists trying to roll coal on them? What ended up happening to him? (To be fair, nobody died, but still, 6 people seriously injured, at least a couple of those were life changing injuries, you’d think that would be comparable severity…)

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              4 days ago

              We’re actually talking about this in another reply to my comment haha. Outcome is unknown because he was charged as a minor so literally everything is sealed but he did graduate highschool so not in prison

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        You are the one doing mental gymnastics bro. What is that back yard comparison? Obviously you just swerve off the road, run him over and say you fell asleep - long day, had to work long hours to pay off my medical debt. Or have an old person run over CEOs, 80yo in cars kill people all the time because they should not be driving anymore. They always get off easy.

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      5 days ago

      Recklessness generally also works in place of intentionally. Negligence is even lower, but is often reserved for civil suits.