• trevor (any/all) @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    There is no judgement mechanism that the state can employ that can accurately determine when a person is forced to wear something that they may choose to. Attempting to enforce such judgement will always cause more harm than any perceived good.

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      What about child marriage? Since “there is no judgement mechanism to determine if it was forced.” And should we let people sell their organs, too, since we can’t prove coercion?

      Ultimately, you’re right, we can’t make these cults illegal, but we can make the cultist’s lives as difficult as possible. And we should.

      Let me put it another way. Anyone who thinks women must wear black bags on their heads is a piece of shit. Since many people will be helped by this law, and only pieces of shit will be inconvenienced, it is a good law.

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      The complete inability to acknowledge this kind of obvious facts about the world is why the left doesn’t win elections. It’s literally written in law in places like Iran and Afghanistan and is often the first thing muslim women stop doing the moment the authoritarian grip starts slipping.

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        Ah yes, the nebulous left who refuse to acknowledge that… Italy is the same country as Iran or Afghanistan???

        Iran and Afghanistan are irrelevant in a conversation discussing the harms or perceived benefits of the authoritarian and Islamaphobic ban that Italy is enacting. Italy is the country implementing the ban, and Italy does doesn’t mandate the wearing of clothing associated with Islam.

        If you actually cared to prevent forced religious dress code, the thing you would push for is that countries with such laws repeal the laws, rather than cheering when countries with no such laws implement authoritarian bans to prevent people from wearing what they want.