For me if I had to pick a good contender it would be the UK version of The Office.

I know many tend to debate how Ricky Gervais really fell off and how he repugnantly acts like a whiny centrist edgelord but me personally IMO I actually don’t think he was ever funny not even a little.

His big break through television was just so painful to sit through it’s so charismatically boring the characters are completely generic at best (notably Tim) or straight up insufferably unlikable at worst (especially the protagonist David FUCKING Brent) and most importantly the humour is just embarrassing.

Always seemed like The Thick Of It but without the nuisance tongue in cheek and charming satire.

  • ccunning@lemmy.world
    212·
    7 days ago

    Blade Runner
    2001: A Space Odyssey
    Citizen Kane

    These movies are so well regarded and spoken so highly of (ok - maybe not Blade Runner); their champions are so passionate and enthusiastic, every time I hear folks go off on how great they are I get, once again, excited to watch them. But every time I try, I just can’t get into them. 2001 is a particular slog with its ~30 minute intro of no dialogue. It almost inevitably puts me to sleep before even the first word is spoken.

    I hate that they’re so well regarded and I really want to enjoy them but I just can’t get into them.

    • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
      9·
      7 days ago

      Citizen Kane is generally considered the origin of the “innovative media that’s considered boring because everyone copied it so now it seems cliche” trope. It was a masterpiece when it came out, but it pioneered so much stuff that became commonplace. When a modern audience looks back at it, you just see the cliches, without realizing that they’re only cliches because they were endlessly repeated afterward.

    • BurgerBaron@quokk.auEnglish
      5·
      6 days ago

      2001: A Space Odyssey

      I like behind the scenes footage far more than the movie. I can appreciate how it’s made but I absolutely can’t stand to actually watch the resulting movie.

    • CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world
      51·
      7 days ago

      2001: A Space Odyssey is so insanely boring and pretentious, I’m still glad I watched it though because it’s very influential, you even see it in the Project Hail Mary movie, and it’s satisfying to have context to art but unless you’re really into watching films I wouldn’t suggest it to anyone

    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
      31·
      6 days ago

      They are worshipped because they were the first in their particular area (neon cyberpunk, Space FX, non-linear storytelling). Each has been improved on by so many other films that the originals pale in comparison.

      They are classics, but not timeless.

    • mrmorganiser@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      21·
      6 days ago

      For blade runner the original film is awful. I didn’t get the hype until I watched the directors cut which I personally thought was excellent.

      2001 definitely overrated.

      I enjoyed Citizen Kane though I completely understand why you wouldn’t like it.

    • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
      16·
      7 days ago

      Citizen Kane

      @9point6@lemmy.world has a comment below stating that some of these are examples where a piece of media did something new and innovative that was so compelling that many subsequent pieces of media copied it, and thus whatever it was that the piece of media did failed to impress later audiences. For them, it was just the new normal. So the work was very influential…but maybe no longer stands out.

      I’ve often seen Citizen Kane cited as being the poster child for this.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen_Kane

      The film’s narrative structure, cinematography and themes have influenced countless filmmakers and films worldwide, asserting its place as a cornerstone in the history of cinema

      EDIT:

      https://thecinemaholic.com/citizen-kane-innovations-flaws/

      ‘Citizen Kane’: The Innovations, the Flaws, and the Films that it Influenced

      EDIT2: @marzhall@lemmy.world linked to the Seinfeld is Unfunny trope on TVTropes, and it has an entry for Citizen Kane:

      Citizen Kane, oftentimes trumpeted as “The Greatest Movie of All Time,” tends to inspire “what’s the big deal?” responses from modern viewers, especially since Post Modern movies have become the norm and the cinematography has influenced so many other films. And everyone knows what the twist at the end is.

      • ccunning@lemmy.world
        11·
        7 days ago

        Definitely true. I’ve heard the same and it’s another one of the reasons I want to appreciate it.

        A other example of this that’s frequently cited and happened in my own life time which makes it easy to see first hand and understand is The Matrix/bullet-time.