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Unfortunately I need my electronic ID that only runs on Windows, Apple, iOS and the Google Android unless you can spoof it. Not even regular Linux or with Wine. And I use it near daily.
Having an accessibility service on android also trips its security which is just a vile practice. Its one thing that i cant use some apps to automate stuff on my phone, but what about the disabled people who need an accessibility service to use their phone. All of this stuff should be open source and use actual security instead of security by obscurity.
Pretty sure this is an illegal practice and can be ended by pressuring the bank a bit (just tell the largest newspapers, the press coverage should make them fix it to not look like idiots).
Its not even the bank… the bank application works well but its the digital id app that doesnt work. Its kinda a complicated thing cause its more accurately mainly used as an application that can provide a digital signature, so for example if you transfer money to someone you can either physically sign it or digitally sign it, and thats what this does. Most swedish banks support it so like 95% of sweden has to use this app. But sweden being sweden, im pretty sure the app is privately developed and not governmental. Which is extremely dangerous because swedens economy very much depends on this application, which once again DOES NOT FUNCTION if youre using accessibility features. This id why i call it vile, because it is.
Yeah, that’s why it’s probably illegal. You could find people that cannot use it, due to a disability perhaps, go to court with them and force government and banks to behave.
If it is excluding people due to a disability, it surely is illegal.
Yeah tho someone would have to take them to court which im not gonna do as an immigrant, especially with the current government. But once again this is another reason to have open standards instead of closed off apps.
Yeah but if im already rooting i could do other stuff as well. Also if were already on this topic, rooting trips knox on samsung, would you by chance know whether they would deny my warranty in sweden like in most other countries or accept it still with triggered knox like in the netherlands?
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what is the government ID used for? why do you need to have it on your phone as opposed to a physical copy of it?
Online banking, extra validation during online purchases, online government services, validating mobile payment, and more.
And technically it’s not government ID but rather organized by banks. There is a government organized one(at least I think it’s government organized) as well but only really works for government services.
Banking and plenty of online transactions require it too. Login to government services and anything healthcare, pharmacy, social security and so on. For some there are cumbersome alternatives with two step validation and codes by email or text messages that may or may not work while electronic ID is a thumb on the phone.
Note that it is not a government ID, a lot of correspondence with the government; taxes, health care, …, is used for it. But it is made by a cartel of seven swedish banks.
Unfortunately I need my electronic ID that only runs on Windows, Apple, iOS and the Google Android unless you can spoof it. Not even regular Linux or with Wine. And I use it near daily.
Boo Sweden.
Boo EU.
Having an accessibility service on android also trips its security which is just a vile practice. Its one thing that i cant use some apps to automate stuff on my phone, but what about the disabled people who need an accessibility service to use their phone. All of this stuff should be open source and use actual security instead of security by obscurity.
Pretty sure this is an illegal practice and can be ended by pressuring the bank a bit (just tell the largest newspapers, the press coverage should make them fix it to not look like idiots).
Its not even the bank… the bank application works well but its the digital id app that doesnt work. Its kinda a complicated thing cause its more accurately mainly used as an application that can provide a digital signature, so for example if you transfer money to someone you can either physically sign it or digitally sign it, and thats what this does. Most swedish banks support it so like 95% of sweden has to use this app. But sweden being sweden, im pretty sure the app is privately developed and not governmental. Which is extremely dangerous because swedens economy very much depends on this application, which once again DOES NOT FUNCTION if youre using accessibility features. This id why i call it vile, because it is.
Yeah, that’s why it’s probably illegal. You could find people that cannot use it, due to a disability perhaps, go to court with them and force government and banks to behave.
If it is excluding people due to a disability, it surely is illegal.
Yeah tho someone would have to take them to court which im not gonna do as an immigrant, especially with the current government. But once again this is another reason to have open standards instead of closed off apps.
fwiw you can get around that by rooting your phone, installing lsposed, and installing the “no accessibility services” xposed module.
hell of a fucking thing just to have basic fucking functionality on your phone, but c’est la vie
Yeah but if im already rooting i could do other stuff as well. Also if were already on this topic, rooting trips knox on samsung, would you by chance know whether they would deny my warranty in sweden like in most other countries or accept it still with triggered knox like in the netherlands?
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what is the government ID used for? why do you need to have it on your phone as opposed to a physical copy of it?
Online banking, extra validation during online purchases, online government services, validating mobile payment, and more.
And technically it’s not government ID but rather organized by banks. There is a government organized one(at least I think it’s government organized) as well but only really works for government services.
Banking and plenty of online transactions require it too. Login to government services and anything healthcare, pharmacy, social security and so on. For some there are cumbersome alternatives with two step validation and codes by email or text messages that may or may not work while electronic ID is a thumb on the phone.
Note that it is not a government ID, a lot of correspondence with the government; taxes, health care, …, is used for it. But it is made by a cartel of seven swedish banks.
Would Android running in an LXC conatiner suffice? That’s what SailfishOS offers, and many users report their ID apps working that way, also Swedes.
Not sure what you mean.
I wonder how hard it’d be to flash android on a pi zero or similar to display only the ID forever. I’d never put something like that on my phone.
You could just install Waydroid. It’s recently become part of the Debian repos and supports armhf.
It should run fine with a fast microSD and nothing else running, considering the Pi Zero is a slow device.
Oh and the docs even say how to run Waydroid full screen and directly boot into it: https://docs.waydro.id/faq/setting-up-waydroid-only-sessions
I’ve tried SailfishOS AppSupport and Waydroid and the FOSS Waydroid seems to work better, so I’d try that.
Also, it runs on many more devices.
Can someone fill me in on this required electronic ID thing? What happens if someone doesn’t have a phone at all? Kicked out of the country?
I take it this is a special app?