Argument about why an instance doesn’t want to federate with another instance that’s devoted to political trolling. Apparently that kind of behavior is simply a core tenet of the belief system, and to criticize it is to reject the whole ideology.
Argument about why an instance doesn’t want to federate with another instance that’s devoted to political trolling. Apparently that kind of behavior is simply a core tenet of the belief system, and to criticize it is to reject the whole ideology.
Hello, this is Carcosa and my hexbear account made both the post and comment that was referenced by the .world admins.
The comment referenced by .world admins was a throw away comment and not a “instance representing statement” I have come to realize that is impossible on an admin account and should not have made the comment.
The post itself was an instance statement, but as cowbee has pointed out in the original post the sentence that the .world admins bolded was not. In addition the .world admin post left out context such as the fact that a portion of the statement was a collaboration of the “news mega crew” which is a large group of moderators and users who primarily interact through the instance through the site pinned news mega post.
As also mentioned hexbear existed for years before federation and was a frequent target for raids organized by other places. Combined with no downvotes this created a unique site posting culture that I knew would clash with the wider fediverse. I was hoping to try and bridge the gap in any way i could.
Including working with other instance admins however the initial poisoning of the well done by the .world admins in matrix has made that difficult.
There was heated discussion in the admin matrix between myself and antik over the fact he was convinced that hexbear brigades but as I said then and will now.
Show me where there is a credible call to action from an admin/mod targeting a specific instance, community, user, post or comment.
There isn’t and the descendant of the instance that abused the rammy instance is still federated (hilarious-chaos) Those admins made credible calls to action asking their users to brigade a linked post. Hexbear has never done that.
One of hilarious chaos’ admins alice intentionally leaked out of context screenshots from those admin matrix channels to maliciously attack other instance admins is no problem for .world admins who remain federated with hilarious-chaos.
Based on these facts (.world remains federated with hilarious chaos despite their admins engaging in two forms of toxic behaviors while pre-emtively defederating from hexbear) one can conclude that political differences is the motivation. I would respect that being the stated reasoning more than the bad-faith accusations made.
Regardless Hexbear users will never vote to federate with .world so the ultimately any discussion of federation between .world and hexbear is pointless.
You can’t wash you hands of your instance members actions by claiming you didn’t instigate it, especially when there are multiple cases (later deleted of course when people started linking them) of Hexbear admins saying that this behaviour is totally ok with them.
Hexbear users, mods, admins and myself did not make posts in other communities that were attempts to bait, troll, or “brigade”. We may have commented in posts questioning liberalism, and I acknowledge that there was a bug with cross-instance emojis but the behavior of me, the other admins, and hexbear users are in accordance with every other federated instance.
You and many other admins have a problem with hexbear’s ideology, which I understand it is difficult to be questioned from the left when acting as the adults in the room but if that is the reason then say so.
Which is besides the point as we are discussing the federation of hexbear and lemmy.world. As .world admins preemptively defederated with hexbear because hexbear is a leftist instance.
What was your (slrpnk admin’s) reasoning for also preemptively defederating from hexbear?
You are either gaslighting yourself or are trying to do so with possible readers here if you deny the problematic cross-instance behavior of many (not all of course) Hexbear users or the tacit approval of that by the admins (clearly shown by the inaction of them). This, and only this is the reason we defederated, and to my knowledge was also the main reason why lemmy.world defederated.
You (slrpnk) and .world defederated from hexbear before we enabled federation as a result of either a malicious misunderstanding of the hexbear local post regarding federation or not even reading the entire hexbear federation post.
How can there be problematic cross-instance behavior if hexbear wasn’t federated when you made the choice to defederate?
As with this entire discussion you seem to be able to give a surface level reading while applying your own personal bias against hexbear, creating a strawman when the facts are linked in this very post.
I just need to commend you on the full effort post on the 0 upvote PTB thread.
People gotta start upvoting for entertaining posts. This one is getting lots of engagement.
I simply sort by new comments
Legit! The best Lemmy threads would be labeled “controversial” on reddit. You gotta look for low upvote, high engagement posts.